red750 Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 This one is a mouthful! [ATTACH=full]1453[/ATTACH] . [ATTACH]18294[/ATTACH]
mnewbery Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Myasishchev M-55? If it is, this thing will go as high as a U2 and then some. I can see why the image has the name edited out now
willedoo Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Well, it's a Mystic, I'm just trying to figure out whether it's a Mystic-A or a Mystic-B ( Myasishchev M-17 'Stratosfera', or M-55 'Geophysica'). I'd guess by the paintjob, it's a M-55. It can be pronounced different ways, probably the more common is Mya -shee - chev. Cheers, Willie.
mnewbery Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 I think all the Geophysica M-55's are NATO reporting name Mystic-B and should all be owned by a company in Ireland? Did the image have Geophysica on it orginally?
mnewbery Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Paint scheme suggests m-55 but I've yet to find a definitive M-17 image to compare it with - The only way to figure out what it actually is - measure its length or have a look at the pilots operating handbook (in Russian) :p. This is claimed to be an M-55. [ATTACH]1454[/ATTACH] Source: http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_m55_en.php [ATTACH]18295[/ATTACH]
willedoo Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 I think all the Geophysica M-55's are NATO reporting name Mystic-B and should all be owned by a company in Ireland? Did the image have Geophysica on it orginally? Yes, that's right, the M-55's are Mystic-B's and the M-17's are the Mystic-A's. I think there were only two M-17 prototypes built. The M-55 is supposed to have a longer jetpipe and shorter intakes, and a re-profiled longer nose plus an undernose FLIR turret. The photo posted above is an M-55 as far as I can see. It has 'Geophysica' in Cryllic written on it, some other photos have it in English, maybe for the benefit of airshows. Most photos seem to be of 55204 or 55203, both M-55's I think. Cheers, Willie.
red750 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Posted December 9, 2012 Hi mnewbery, Here is the unretouched image. .
red750 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Posted December 9, 2012 Maybe these are too easy with a photo. Try this without a photo. What aircraft was designed to meet a US Military requirement, I won't say which service, and worked fine in the scale test model, but was canned because the full size aircraft couldn't get off the ground?
willedoo Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 There's a few photos on Airliners of RF-55204. http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=RF-55204 Also found a photo of an old M-17 in Aeroflot markings. The smaller nose is evident, as well as the longer intakes closer to the cockpit & lack of a FLIR. [ATTACH=full]1455[/ATTACH] Cheers, Willie. [ATTACH]18296[/ATTACH]
mnewbery Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 worked fine in the scale test model Not the Zeppelin ZMC-2 then. It actually flew.
willedoo Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Maybe these are too easy with a photo. Try this without a photo.What aircraft was designed to meet a US Military requirement, I won't say which service, and worked fine in the scale test model, but was canned because the full size aircraft couldn't get off the ground? Looking for a hint here, Peter. Was it round and made in Canada? Cheers, Willie.
mnewbery Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar Maximum speed: 300 mph (483 km/h; 261 kn) (estimated), 35 mph (56 km/h) (actual) :eek:
red750 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Posted December 10, 2012 Sorry, I omitted a critical piece of information, which I don't recall seeing in the info I looked at yesterday, and now cannot find again. Further research points out that the aircraft was intended as a VTOL machine which looked fine on paper but in reality could only lift 75% of its weight in vertical flight. .
red750 Posted December 12, 2012 Author Posted December 12, 2012 No response? The aircraft is the Rockwell XVF-12a. See the Wikipedia article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_XFV-12 [ATTACH=full]1484[/ATTACH] . [ATTACH]18308[/ATTACH]
siznaudin Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Oh dear oh dear - that would have cost the long suffering American taxpayers a packet.:rolleyes:
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