Practicing a Forced Landing - Valencia Airport (LEVC) 27-OCT-2015

[fpico]

Hi everyone,

 

Practicing a Forced Landing (Engine Failure) at Valencia International Airport (LEVC) back in October 2015, interesting landing crossing over the industrial area next to the airport.

 

Enjoy the video

 

 

Cheers,

 

Frank Pico

 

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[planesmaker]

3 point landing!

 

 

[IBob]

My first forced landing practice, I arrived fine but with an excess of speed, which was not an issue on our local sealed strip.

 

However, my instructor pointed out that in an off-field forced landing, you're probably also trying to stop fairly promptly, which means flaring to wash off that excess speed.

 

 

[turboplanner]

3 point landing!

Good way to start a pogo.

 

 

[Yenn]

Too much speed is bad, but too little is worse. You will survive overrunning the landing area, better than stalling short..

 

Flaring is what you do every time to get rid of the last bit of lift.

 

I get a bit scared sometimes with tricycle drivers, they all seem to touch down way too fast and then use the brakes to slow down. I must admit that I am out of practice with tricycle types, having logged two landings in the last 3 years.

 

 

[facthunter]

The truth usually is IF you are FAST, they tend to float will use up a lot of runway and if you are faced with that and cannot go around, get the plane on the ground, get weight on the wheels and use the brakes. to slow up. Touching down on the nosewheel is dangerous as the plane may wheelbarrow also poling forward on a Light aircraft will lift the weight off the Mains to some extent and cause a directional control problem. A T/W plane can be pinned onto the ground by forward stick if it's got prop clearance and you can brake it until the speed drops until you can't stop it from pitching forward, so you must reduce braking to stop it going on it's nose and lower the tail before you get to that stage. Nev

 

 

[fpico]

Too much speed is bad, but too little is worse. You will survive overrunning the landing area, better than stalling short..

 

Flaring is what you do every time to get rid of the last bit of lift.

 

I get a bit scared sometimes with tricycle drivers, they all seem to touch down way too fast and then use the brakes to slow down. I must admit that I am out of practice with tricycle types, having logged two landings in the last 3 years.

Thanks for your tips.

 

 

[turboplanner]

Thanks for your tips.

Was that a Cherokee?

 

 

[fpico]

Yes, a PA28-180 youhave a good eye.

 

Was that a Cherokee?

[turboplanner]

Yes, a PA28-180 youhave a good eye.

Hi Frank, I'm not sure how advanced you are, and whether that 3 pointer was just the result of the tight turn for the forced landing, but if you have been landing flat, you'll enjoy it a lot more if you hold the nose higher after the flare. The low wing Cherokee lands in ground effect (Where a Cessna 172 would drop you onto the concrete) so once you're close to the ground, around a metre you can pull the control back and the wing becomes a big air brake to slow you down. The control keeps coming back (as long as the stall warning isn't going), and you should get a nice tyre squeak as the wheels spool up on the concrete, and no bump. After the mains touch, the nose slowly lowers as the speed drops off. Doing it this way, you'll never slip into a wheelbarrow like this one.

 

If you are learning, don't try to convert without and instructor, but if the flat landing was just because the turn had to be tight, no problems.

 

 

[kaz3g]

Too much speed is bad, but too little is worse. You will survive overrunning the landing area, better than stalling short..

 

Flaring is what you do every time to get rid of the last bit of lift.

 

I get a bit scared sometimes with tricycle drivers, they all seem to touch down way too fast and then use the brakes to slow down. I must admit that I am out of practice with tricycle types, having logged two landings in the last 3 years.

I’m doing my BFR on Saturday in C172. Last time I flew a tricycle was 2 years earlier for same deal

 

I think it’s good to get out of my comfort zone (Auster) and really try myself out. Have also done it in. C182R for same reason.

 

 

[fpico]

Hi Frank, I'm not sure how advanced you are, and whether that 3 pointer was just the result of the tight turn for the forced landing, but if you have been landing flat, you'll enjoy it a lot more if you hold the nose higher after the flare. The low wing Cherokee lands in ground effect (Where a Cessna 172 would drop you onto the concrete) so once you're close to the ground, around a metre you can pull the control back and the wing becomes a big air brake to slow you down. The control keeps coming back (as long as the stall warning isn't going), and you should get a nice tyre squeak as the wheels spool up on the concrete, and no bump. After the mains touch, the nose slowly lowers as the speed drops off. Doing it this way, you'll never slip into a wheelbarrow like this one.

 

Thanks for the tip, yes this was early in my training, I think I have better mastered the landing in both the C172 and PA28.

 

 

[Yenn]

I would have thought that if you fly an Auster, it would be a piece of cake to fly a C172 or C182.

 

I have done BFRs in C172, Piper Tomohawk and Beech B23. All are dead easy to land using normal Tailwheel methods.