old man emu Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Regulation this; Regulation that; Approval for this; Restriction on that. Landing Fees; parking fees. ASIC cards; permit to jump through hoops. Stuff it. I'm giving up on aviation and buying myself a boat like this one: It'll only cost me $57and a half K. Nobody will call me "rich an extravagant" because I own a boat, like they would if I owned a plane. I don't have to go through an expensive training regimen to be able to drive it. I've just got to sit a "road rules" test. I don't have to be fastidious in maintaining it. In fact, I don't have to maintain it at all, but can still keep using it. I don't have to set up something akin to the National Archive to keep all the records of maintenance and mods. I don't need an Engineering Order to install any equipment. I don't have to pay landing fees, and can park it at home. I can go anywhere on water that the boat can float in. Why, there's nothing legally stopping me from using it to sail around the World; up and down the Nile or Amazon, or tour the rivers of Europe. I can use it night and day, in good weather or foul. I won't have to undergo regular medicals and risk my licence being suspended because my BMI is above some arbitrary magic number, or my eyes grow dim. I can't fly, but I'm telling you I can sail my boat where I want to 6 1 1
FlyBoy1960 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 A lot of boat ramps now have launching fees so they will get you somehow !
mnewbery Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 This is the same path my grandfather JB Newbery took. In return, melanoma took him. He never gave up his enthusiasm for aviation but after two knee replacements he much preferred to be under the flight path than on it. Wear sunscreen!
IBob Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Yep...I inadvertently wandered into the sailboat section of TradeMe (NZ's eBay) a few days back, and found myself kinda wistful about all the beautiful boats i'll never own....but I've got to spend some time with this flying for now......)
facthunter Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Whatever floats your boat they say. Just jump under a cold shower and tear up banknotes and you have the "owning a boat" sensation. BOTH aviation and boats are good at ridding you of cash.. Getting it out of the water when a buster comes through is fun too when your tow vehicle floats away. Get a small sailboat and enjoy the quiet. It's more like flying. I do like sailing.. I'd like a safe small submarine but that's a bit of a fantasy .Nev 3
Blueadventures Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Regulation this; Regulation that; Approval for this; Restriction on that. Landing Fees; parking fees. ASIC cards; permit to jump through hoops. Stuff it. I'm giving up on aviation and buying myself a boat like this one: [ATTACH type=full" alt="43818]43818[/ATTACH] It'll only cost me $57and a half K. Nobody will call me "rich an extravagant" because I own a boat, like they would if I owned a plane. I don't have to go through an expensive training regimen to be able to drive it. I've just got to sit a "road rules" test. I don't have to be fastidious in maintaining it. In fact, I don't have to maintain it at all, but can still keep using it. I don't have to set up something akin to the National Archive to keep all the records of maintenance and mods. I don't need an Engineering Order to install any equipment. I don't have to pay landing fees, and can park it at home. I can go anywhere on water that the boat can float in. Why, there's nothing legally stopping me from using it to sail around the World; up and down the Nile or Amazon, or tour the rivers of Europe. I can use it night and day, in good weather or foul. I won't have to undergo regular medicals and risk my licence being suspended because my BMI is above some arbitrary magic number, or my eyes grow dim. I can't fly, but I'm telling you I can sail my boat where I want to You will need to by a prop for that one. Cheers 1
Blueadventures Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Whatever floats your boat they say. Just jump under a cold shower and tear up banknotes and you have the "owning a boat" sensation. BOTH aviation and boats are good at ridding you of cash.. Getting it out of the water when a buster comes through is fun too when your tow vehicle floats away. Get a small sailboat and enjoy the quiet. It's more like flying. I do like sailing.. I'd like a safe small submarine but that's a bit of a fantasy .Nev Spelt BOATT Bring out another ten thousand.
jackc Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Be read for plenty of boat ramp rage, stolen boat trailer and being harassed by fishing inspectors, boat RBTs, increasing number of sudden mates wanting to go fishing with you :-) Nope, been there done that, Cheers, Jack. 1 1
Yenn Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I did what you are doing many years ago but with sailing boats. Bought 2nd hand and then built one. The flying bug proved too hard to resist and I sold the boat and went back to flying. 1
facthunter Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 A flying boat becomes a very poor sailing boat once you shut the engine down. and the drag is with you every Km you fly. They DO seem like a good idea though . (Until you think about it) Nev
onetrack Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 If you thought your fuel bill with your aircraft was bad, wait until you own a boat!!
pmccarthy Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Yeah drag in water is much more than drag in air.
Admin Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 OME, good on you mate whether it is flying or boating, or even model trains in the garage with the car parked out in the street, enjoy it 1
facthunter Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Model boats in the bathtub? Trouble is you end up wrinkly and cold. Take up Bird watching . (The feathered kind) Unending interest, it's about flying and you get lots of exercise walking to the best places.. Nev
Deskpilot Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 OME, keep this old saying in mind: "A boat is a hole in the water into which you're continuously throwing money" Been there, done that 2
spenaroo Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 oh yeah, very quick way to lose money. grew up around boats thanks to my father. small tinnies with oars, to a 40ft flybridge cruiser with twin 250 outboards drinking a litre per minute. family now has a ski boat with a 350 chev sitting in it. (bought when i was a teen, sold when we were adults. purchased back again 10 years later when the first grand-kids started walking.) think the old man spends $300 each time it goes out. I run two jet-ski's, a stand-up and a sit down. also absorb the money like a bucket with a hole in the bottom. easily spend $150 on fuel and 2-stroke oil each day. last time was almost a grand.... (fined for not having a torch in the stand-up, then it decided it didnt want to run anymore - still need to replace a component in the electrical box) then there's the maintenance. have to clean and flush everything when you get home. (my ski's only ever see freshwater...... because im lazy, and cant be bothered with the maintenance that salt brings - easier to dive an extra hour to the lake) constant corrosion everywhere
spacesailor Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Your not on your own, My neighbor down the road has just bought a 50 foot yacht, don't know if he still has the Cessna twin. And the Hummel builder Up the road has gone VH, spacesailor
Litespeed Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Ah, the beauty of the sea. You don't have to spend a bomb, get a boat someone has spent the bucks on and buy when they loose interest, often winter. Now is a great buying time. Never pay ad price esp for a sail boat. Often go for 20-30% less, haggle they are often for sale for months and costing fees and maintenance. Pick a construction type you are willing to work on, is wood, steel, glass or ferro. If you live aboard it is far cheaper and easier to maintain. My bro has a 23ft, works and cost $200 and it will sail. My glass dingy is 13ft and a sail cum power boat. Was free as it came with a $200 trailer registered. Solid. Stable and great as fishing cum utility boat. Add a old but strong Johnson 15 and she rocks. Does what would cost 20 k as a new alloy and motor setup. Yes I need to redo gunwhales but that's fine and will do some mods for more comfort. This is a unsinkable boat with huge built in floatation. It does not have to cost a bomb. Never buy new, let someone else loose the depreciation etc. Just like aircraft, speed costs money.
Litespeed Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Also for bigger boats, oil burners are you friend and far cheaper to run. A 40 ft motor sailed or power cruiser boat can do 6-7 knots on a 6 litres a hour. Better ones do it on 3 litres. If your not in a hurry, they can be cheap to run. Some sailboats it is as low as 1 litre a hour. Not everything guzzles
Blueadventures Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Ah, the beauty of the sea. You don't have to spend a bomb, get a boat someone has spent the bucks on and buy when they loose interest, often winter. Now is a great buying time. Never pay ad price esp for a sail boat. Often go for 20-30% less, haggle they are often for sale for months and costing fees and maintenance. Pick a construction type you are willing to work on, is wood, steel, glass or ferro. If you live aboard it is far cheaper and easier to maintain. My bro has a 23ft, works and cost $200 and it will sail. My glass dingy is 13ft and a sail cum power boat. Was free as it came with a $200 trailer registered. Solid. Stable and great as fishing cum utility boat. Add a old but strong Johnson 15 and she rocks. Does what would cost 20 k as a new alloy and motor setup. Yes I need to redo gunwhales but that's fine and will do some mods for more comfort. This is a unsinkable boat with huge built in floatation. It does not have to cost a bomb. Never buy new, let someone else loose the depreciation etc. Just like aircraft, speed costs money. With ferro you will find that nearly all all marinas will not allow you in. Also most likely will be unable to get insurance. And if you find insurance from overseas; any claim if you suffer a loss of vessel will be a big challenge in some cases. IMHO.
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