Bruce Tuncks Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 There was a good article about saying "no" in the latest "close calls" pamphlet. I am reminded of the importance of this whenever I see Paul Keating in the news. Some years ago, both Keating and the Polish president were angry about the pilots of their VIP jets not wanting to take off in nasty storms. The difference was that we run a better society and our pilots had enough authority to get their way, and the Polish pilots took off under orders. All the Poles died. The president and all his entourage of generals and aides, the pilots too. I thought it was a great lesson, and had some sympathy for the pilots. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 AFAIC, the Polish Tupolev 154 crash was good riddance to a bunch of ignorant, arrogant, Polish politicians and senior military personnel, suffering from the "me first", "entitlement" mentality. But it was a total tragedy that they took a lot of good innocent people with them. That Polish President and his overweening military cohorts should only be historically remembered as selfish mass murderers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 To pick the eyes out of Hamlet's "To be, or not to be" speech, and twist it to the topic at hand. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, One could ask which is better, to suffer the wrong demands of others, or to stand and defend your contrary decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 As see it. If you "bully" they eventually get stronger. If you give in, they get overconfident and keep doing it and more. It's also best to appear strong and not have to prove it. The "strong" silent type who looks like they can take care of themselves. When knives etc come into the picture, Don't be part of the picture.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunder Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 There was a good article about saying "no" in the latest "close calls" pamphlet. I am reminded of the importance of this whenever I see Paul Keating in the news. Some years ago, both Keating and the Polish president were angry about the pilots of their VIP jets not wanting to take off in nasty storms. The difference was that we run a better society and our pilots had enough authority to get their way, and the Polish pilots took off under orders. All the Poles died. The president and all his entourage of generals and aides, the pilots too. I thought it was a great lesson, and had some sympathy for the pilots. I'm reminded of the media clips of public passengers whinging about delayed flights due to weather. Such as when volcano's delay returning flights in Bali. The ignorance and arrogance! Would they really be happier.....dead? "First world problems"..... as they say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I don’t fly if I don’t like the weather, full stop! With airline travel I have no problem with delays, the problem I have is with the failure of the airline (Jetstar!!!) to apprise the passengers of the situation, eg just changing the departure time on the board without any announcement! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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