Did you know?

[red750]

 

 

[old man emu]

This from the Belfast Telegraph:

 

Aer Lingus Introduces All-Leprechaun Flight Crew.

 

Former Aer Lingus trouble shooter, and current QANTAS CEO, Alan Joyce praised the move and lamented that no suitable types were available for Australian airlines to hire.

 

 

[Yenn]

Are Aussie female flight attendants lighter than males?

 

 

[facthunter]

  I've seen a couple of Jumbo ones with Virgin. Standard weights are used nearly 100% of the time for Pax and crew. I'd take that article with a pinch of salt, if salt wasn't bad for you. Really long flights make actual payload expensive, as with the extra fuel carried the payload is reduced substantially and pay load PAYS. for it all. Nev

 

 

[Downunder]

Different countries have different discrimination laws...... obviously. 

 

They might save $500 000 in fuel but in Aus they'd be PAYING $500 000 in law suits...

 

I've seen a few "chubby" flight attendants in the terminals in the last few weeks. A reflection of our society in general unfortunately.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

These people started it:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/02/travel/samoa-air-fare-by-weight/index.html

 

The idea hasn't died out, but it's not spreading very fast:

 

http://www.travelstart.co.za/blog/these-are-the-airlines-who-charge-passengers-by-their-body-weight/

 

 

[facthunter]

 Why shouldn't they? It happens with Parcels and other freight. It's especially appropriate with Air travel.  Nev

 

 

[onetrack]

In general, women are lighter than men, because they have a smaller skeletal frame, and their bodies comprise less muscle and sinews, and more fat cells, which are lighter than muscle cells (for a given volume).

 

Also, men generally have denser, and therefore heavier, bone structures. This explains why many women suffer from osteoporosis in later life, while men rarely suffer from the disease.

 

Mens bone thickness in the skull is much more than women, mens jawbones are bigger and heavier than womens. 

 

Of course, there are always differences between individuals, but as a general rule, if a women is the same height as a man, she will still weigh less.

 

 

[facthunter]

In some countries, they only get the left overs, but I shouldn't say that here. Nev

 

 

[Yenn]

I would agree that generally men are heavier than women, but their is another factor to think of here.

 

The type of man who is attracted to flight attendant work has a certain mental outlook. I will not give its usual name. That means he is usually more careful about his appearance and therefore less likely to be overweight

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

In some countries, they only get the left overs, but I shouldn't say that here. Nev

 

And this one as well, Nev. My mum worked incedibly long days then cooked dinner for the whole tribe. She always ate last and probably least. We didn't notice until we grew up. Bluddy religions have a lot to answer for.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

In general, women are lighter than men...

 

No wonder space agencies are sending women up to do the work. 

 

With launch costs of a million or so per kg, they're a bargain.

 

 

[red750]

Here is another Did You Know?

 

Did you know that on June 6, the factory of Belite Aircraft, makers of the Belite Chipper and a number of other models was destroyed by fire? A quote from their website"

 

"On June 6, our facility was burned in a severe fire. It destroyed 10 years worth of accumulated inventory, tooling, office equipment, CNC machines, and so forth. Our business insurance has provided us with a partial payback on what we owned.

 

We did not receive enough insurance proceeds to continue to operate. We did not have business interruption insurance. The life savings of James and Kathy were invested in the business, and it is gone now, without recovery. Therefore, James is focused on creating current and future income through electronics work.

 

We Are Seeking A Serious Buyer For The Chipper 2 Design.

 

The Chipper 2 Aircraft is, and was, a spectacular STOL performer. It was glowingly reviewed by Kitplanes and EAA Sport Pilot. The senior editor of Flying Magazine was a fan (although he hadn’t yet printed an article!)

 

We have maintained and improved our CAD database since the fire, keeping a full time employee on staff to manage customer builder questions and add details to the CAD."

 

The Belite Chipper

 

 

 

[facthunter]

STOL planes do one thing well and most of the other stuff poorly, including tolerate gusty and strong winds  Alaska is one place where you couldn't get to a lot of places by road and to hop over a ridge and land on river rocks has some appeal if you like fresh water fishing in those places. I think I would get tired of one once I'd explored it's limits for a while in our environment.. Nev

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Mens bone thickness in the skull is ...

 

 

 

... quite common in aircraft forums.

 

 

[M61A1]

No wonder space agencies are sending women up to do the work. 

 

With launch costs of a million or so per kg, they're a bargain.

 

You could send up someone who costs less or send someone who can do the job.  

 

 

[Bruce Tuncks]

I think I remember big scales at the airport in Alice Springs, where you stood on the scales WITH your baggage.

 

Good sense, says overweight me, and they never should have stopped it.

 

My Jabiru operates like that to this day.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

You could send up someone who costs less or send someone who can do the job.  

 

...and that’s when the fight started...

 

 

[facthunter]

Weighing WITH your baggage just gives total weight, which is one aspect of the equation . The other one is balance and the luggage goes in "Holds" which are different distances from the balance DATUM..  Nev

 

 

[turboplanner]

Same applies in an RA aircraft. On another thread, some of the loads which are carried by the pilot are significant enough to warrant a one-time calculation which is then just added to the sub totals in the pre-flight calcs

 

 

[facthunter]

If you get ramp checked you should expect to be able to show that you have a system that monitors both total weight and the balance (not using fuel  which can be consumed to achieve the balance) at all stages of flight and to an empty fuel situation.. The simplest plane is where the load (pilot and pax) and the fuel is near the Cof G range allowed. No weight added or removed from the Cof G range can put the balance out of the range..that makes it simpler. Tandem seats with fuel in front and baggage at the rear are the worst for being able to become risky easily. and the distances are greater so the turning "couple " possible is larger. If you look rearwards and your elevator is "DOWN" much at cruise you are tail heavy, and could be deadly at slow speeds where the tail feathers might actually stall and control is impossible. If the elevator is UP much you may have difficulty flaring  to a 3 point attitude, but it's a much safer situation than tail heavy. Nev

 

 

[Yenn]

In my RV it is possible to get out of balance and still be within weight limits. With  very heavy passenger and also luggage, it is possible to take off at less than max weight and as the fuel burns off the C of G moves back beyond its safe limit.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Daughter #2, who has a somewhat violent temper, was standing there getting her plane ticket at the counter, suitcase goes on and they wanted to charge her for being 2kgs over.

 

At the time she was model slim, 55 kgs maybe, so she starts, as she does, and very loudly, about her total combinedd weight, and starts pointing to all the "Fat!" Ladies standing in line ... they quickly gave up, lol!

 

 

[IBob]

In general, women are lighter than men, because they have a smaller skeletal frame, and their bodies comprise less muscle and sinews, and more fat cells, which are lighter than muscle cells (for a given volume)................

 

Sometime around 1986, I flew Aeroflot up to the Kamchatka peninsula. And, months later, back. The air hostesses strode the aisles without at any time turning sideways, and if you carelessly had a shoulder sticking out there, you risked getting it broken by their hip bones as they passed.

 

I can only think they were selected using a different criteria???

 

 

[Bruce Tuncks]

Bex your daughter is great. And correct too. Nev etc are also right, but their balance stuff could be fixed by changing seats a bit. Your daughter is more right than anybody.