red750 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 18 PC9 aircraft including the Roulettes machines are going on auction at Avalon. Full details here.
Marty_d Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 That'd be nice. (Not that I could afford to run one!) Guess the ejection seats would be disabled. 1
Thruster88 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 No logbooks so only good if you live out beyond Bourke. ?
ClintonB Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 Does that mean they cannot be registered as warbirds for use? what good is a turbo prop that you cannot fly. expensive ornament. 1
old man emu Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 I wonder if you could get the service records through a Freedom of Information application.
Garfly Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 For anyone thinking of grabbing one, this will be of interest:
Bruce Tuncks Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 I hope they get sold to good guys and not some third world dictator. If I had my way, they would stay in service for another 20 years.
440032 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 I'm told the maintenance records are all electronic on a military system, which is not available to Joe Average. I think we'll see some of these fly in civilian hands in short time, unless they all go to Dirkadirkastan.
Blueadventures Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 All the CT4 people can upgrade if they want. 1
spacesailor Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Whats the price of a motorised glider, they'r up around $15,000 now, they look nice but I don't know anything about that make ?. 3 shares will fit the bill. LoL spacesailor
Blueadventures Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Whats the price of a motorised glider, they'r up around $15,000 now, they look nice but I don't know anything about that make ?. 3 shares will fit the bill. LoL spacesailor Maybe reach 3 to 6 times that. Nice glider not high performance but would be a pleasure to fly.IMHO.
spenaroo Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 may have found who bought some of these, don't know who follows the military side of things but the USAF is going to private contractors for a lot of their training. and I found this bit in an article about Blue close air support buying some OV-10 Broncos "the company also recently bought a half dozen ex-Royal Australian Air Force PC-9 turboprop trainers. All of these aircraft are suitable for training personnel on the ground, such as JTACs, to call in airstrikes and otherwise coordinate with aerial assets. " 1
spacesailor Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Thanks for that information. Now who will be flying a motorised glider, after this FLU season has finished. LoL spacesailor
facthunter Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Motorised gliders have been around since I was a Kid.. Nothing new about them in principle. . The PC9s probably have high airframe hours for aerobatic planes and may require some work $$$$$'s. Nev
Student Pilot Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Even if they were tip top condition they would be very expensive to operate. Cruise fuel flow of 300 litres plus.
facthunter Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 3.9 Kms/Litre. (according to Pilatus.) That way it doesn't look so bad.. Pressurised so you can get UP and away. Nev
spacesailor Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 About the Same as a Rolls Royce. LoL spacesailor
Student Pilot Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 Not sure how they achieved those figures, a PT6-67 uses 80 litres an hour fuel flow at idle!
Student Pilot Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 About the Same as a Rolls Royce. LoL spacesailor Yes, similar to a Merlin. The PC9 installation is flat rated back to 900(shp) I think. You get what you pay for, big HP, big fuel flow. The 802 has the same engine but most now have a PT6-67 F which is rated to 1700 SHP, is nice to have when you need it. 1
facthunter Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 From Pilatus site. They usually have about 3.5 hours endurance and I presume it's a normal pressurised cruising levels. When I had a chance to buy a Mustang it was 80 GPH .L/R cruise. Turbines chew fuel idling and at low levels.. A P&W R-2000 used about 50 gph normal cruise. (That would be US gallons) Nev
Butch Posted April 3, 2020 Posted April 3, 2020 About the Same as a Rolls Royce. LoL spacesailor An old eccentric local farmer had an old Roller.......he used to get down the local pub and tell everyone it would pass anything on the road except a petrol station lol 2 2
Bill Posted April 4, 2020 Posted April 4, 2020 An old eccentric local farmer had an old Roller.......he used to get down the local pub and tell everyone it would pass anything on the road except a petrol station lol I understand the 4 motorgliders (ASK 21Mi) sold for $140000 to $150000. I'm told (but can't confirm) they all went offshore - NZ, Italy & USA (2). The two that went to the US were purchased by locals on their behalf. Given the present value of the A$ & low hours they were bargains.
spacesailor Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Many thanks for your information. I guess I won,t get to see them fly locally. spacesailor
facthunter Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Certainly be a competent aerobatics plane making lesser types seem crude and somewhat unpleasant by contrast (G suite and all). For a display, something slower and more draggy would be better from the spectator point of view with a real engine, not a fan and blowtorch combo. It's bang for your buck in the end, unless you want to say" I've got one".. Nev
Bill Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Many thanks for your information. I guess I won,t get to see them fly locally. spacesailor They have another 7 to sell. And there's one been operating at Mt Beauty for approx 10 years.
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