FlyBoy1960 Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 The parachute failed to open because it was not deployed. The aircraft is carbon fibre which was burnt but it is no more dangerous than burnt fibreglass. The area was wet down with water to stop any dust and then it was sprayed with Bond Crete which basically binds everything together, it ends up setting like a layer of varnish over all of the areas. The fire brigade where the full reading system because that is what they are required to do but the police just used normal PPE equipment which included the blue overalls and a facemask and gloves. Investigations continue today and the airspace above Jacobs Well is shut down from 10 AM to 12 AM so they can use drones to take high-resolution images. All of the wreckage was recovered last night and removed off-site to police storage.
turboplanner Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 ............ Mr turbs Are you incinerating that the flight was out side social restriction boundaries ? On the date of the crash CASA were directing all enquiries about restriction on recreational activity and business operations to the State Departments of Health. The States and Territories had declared a State of Emergency which automatically gives power to certain people, in this case each Chief Health Officer. From 11:59 pm, April 2, 2020 a Direction from Queensland's Chief Medical Officer in accordance with emergency powers arising from the declared public health emergency, Public Health Act 2005 (Qld), Section 32B, Part 1 - Direction - Home Confinement Movement and Gathering, listed Items "a" to "n", 14 specific purposes which would allow someone to leave their home. (Non Commercial flying in any form was not on the list.) Penalty: 100 PU @ $133.45 = $13,300.00 1
M61A1 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 On the date of the crash CASA were directing all enquiries about restriction on recreational activity and business operations to the State Departments of Health. The States and Territories had declared a State of Emergency which automatically gives power to certain people, in this case each Chief Health Officer. From 11:59 pm, April 2, 2020 a Direction from Queensland's Chief Medical Officer in accordance with emergency powers arising from the declared public health emergency, Public Health Act 2005 (Qld), Section 32B, Part 1 - Direction - Home Confinement Movement and Gathering, listed Items "a" to "n", 14 specific purposes which would allow someone to leave their home. (Non Commercial flying in any form was not on the list.) Penalty: 100 PU @ $133.45 = $13,300.00 Neither was going for a solo motorcycle ride or boating/fishing, but in an interview with the ABC the QLD health minister said both of these were acceptable activities. You could take your chances and reasonably extrapolate from that that solo flying would also meet the criteria. Link: All you need to know about the rules on home confinement in Queensland 1 1
SSCBD Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 So what type of aircraft crashed at Heckfield. Was it a pipistrel.
M61A1 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 The parachute failed to open because it was not deployed. The aircraft is carbon fibre which was burnt but it is no more dangerous than burnt fibreglass. The area was wet down with water to stop any dust and then it was sprayed with Bond Crete which basically binds everything together, it ends up setting like a layer of varnish over all of the areas. The fire brigade where the full reading system because that is what they are required to do but the police just used normal PPE equipment which included the blue overalls and a facemask and gloves. Investigations continue today and the airspace above Jacobs Well is shut down from 10 AM to 12 AM so they can use drones to take high-resolution images. All of the wreckage was recovered last night and removed off-site to police storage. While it's still burning the breathing apparatus is definitely necessary, both polyester and epoxy matrices are extremely toxic when incinerated. 1
JG3 Posted April 6, 2020 Author Posted April 6, 2020 Boy, it sure doesn't take you guys long to run a thread off topic into BS jousting...... Please set up different threads for that game so that the rest of us can avoid it all...... 3
Admin Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 ENOUGH...the topic of this thread and the two unfortunate fellow aviators do not deserve this kind of posting 4 1
Thruster88 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 ENOUGH...the topic of this thread and the two unfortunate fellow aviators do not deserve this kind of posting I don't think anyone will have a problem if you delete any inappropriate posts 1
M61A1 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Boy, it sure doesn't take you guys long to run a thread off topic into BS jousting...... Please set up different threads for that game so that the rest of us can avoid it all...... It is sort of relevant JG....as it was suggested quite strongly the no one should have been aviating at all. There appears to be a difference of opinion about that. 1 1
kgwilson Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 After wading through the 3 pages of this thread with 2 pages being irrelevant I still don't know what the aircraft was. It apparently took off with 2 persons aboard but the engine developed insufficient power to clear a clump of trees after clipping an aerial phone cable. There was a fire and one person died & the other is in hospital with significant burns. Hopefully the person can recover from the burns. Can anyone enlighten me further? 2 2
turboplanner Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 After wading through the 3 pages of this thread with 2 pages being irrelevant I still don't know what the aircraft was. It apparently took off with 2 persons aboard but the engine developed insufficient power to clear a clump of trees after clipping an aerial phone cable. There was a fire and one person died & the other is in hospital with significant burns. Hopefully the person can recover from the burns. Can anyone enlighten me further? Thorp T18 I think VH Registered
Kyle Communications Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 I said before early in this thread I was told it was a Pipistrel 1
Admin Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Thread has been edited with many posts that should be in their own thread removed which means a lot of people have wasted their time composing posts that sent this thread way off topic instead of creating a new and more appropriate thread. I hope the official cause of this accident will come to light in due course and that the survivor is ok 9 2
killtrassy Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) RAA forum states it was a Pipistrel model Virus SW 100 with a Rotax 912 motor. https://www.pipistrel-aircraft.com/aircraft/cruising/virus-sw-80-100-115-is/ Edited April 7, 2020 by killtrassy 1 1
Thruster88 Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 RAA forum states it was a Pipistrel model Virus SW 100 with a Rotax 912 motor. https://www.pipistrel-aircraft.com/aircraft/cruising/virus-sw-80-100-115-is/ Take off to 50' in 175 metres, 17:1 glide, 35knot stall. A very impressive aircraft.
derekliston Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Take off to 50' in 175 metres, 17:1 glide, 35knot stall. A very impressive aircraft. Not a Rotax engine failure surely!!!!!
danny_galaga Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Any word on the survivor, and who the occupants were?
Flying Binghi Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Looking at some of the videos out there of the crash scene I noted a chap putting out a ‘Live Wires’ sign ? .
M61A1 Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Not a Rotax engine failure surely!!!!! They do have a variable pitch prop, so that's something to get wrong or go wrong. 1
Thruster88 Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Not a Rotax engine failure surely!!!!! Hopefully the engine will be dismantled to check for dropped valve or broken piston etc and not just taken to the tip. External factors such as fuel flow, intake obstructions may be impossible to prove given the state of the wreckage. In ATSB reports on Lycoming and Continental powered aircraft "No mechanical defects which would have prevented normal operation were found" is a common finding.
turboplanner Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 They do have a variable pitch prop, so that's something to get wrong or go wrong. That would do it.
flyhi Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Looking at some of the videos out there of the crash scene I noted a chap putting out a ‘Live Wires’ sign ? . Lots of power lines at that intersection.
Bruce Tuncks Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 With the performance figures quoted, it is hard to see why the crash. There should have been plenty of time between noting something wrong and losing the ability to land straight ahead. Before losing the ability to land straight ahead, you have enough height to do a circuit. Unless the airstrip was quite short, I guess. Was it a short strip? 1
Flying Binghi Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Lots of power lines at that intersection. Would the sign just be an advisory of overhead lines? .
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