Captain Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 The following is hypothetical BUT based on what I observed at Narromine as described in another thread. SO (apart from kissing your **** goodbye)..... WHAT WOULD OR SHOULD YOU DO IF? ........ You are on final in a 19 or 24 class recreational aircraft for a well established active tarred runway about 1500 - 2000 long, with 15 - 20 knots of gusty wind that is pretty well on the nose but perhaps varying 10 - 15 degrees either side of the runway direction. Your approach looks good and at about the instant that you flare, you experience a major wind change with no warning and say 15 - 25 knots at 90 degrees to the runway. AND WHAT SHOULDN'T YOU DO? ......
BigPete Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 In those conditions I wouldn't be looking to flare too much or at all - half flap at most - in my Jabiru J160c approach would 60/65 knots with a little throttle on. Drive it onto the run way and be ready to put the stick into the wind once on the deck. regards
Ultralights Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 a rule of thumb i was taught years ago, keep flap setting and associated speed at the same angle as the windsock, nill wind = full flap, gale == no flap, and hence higher speed. if the wind is 20kts, then a higher approach speed would be used, and i would fly the aircraft on more than flare. if i wasnt on the deck when the gust hit, full power and climb away,
motzartmerv Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 yep.. go around why risk bendin the plane, or your head?
vk3auu Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Well, I have "been there and done that" at Leongatha in a Thruster. As I recall, I was about to flare, probably twenty feet or so off the deck when the wind suddenly changed direction. I instantly turned into the wind, ready to put it down off the strip, into the wind on the grass, but fortunately, the wind straightened up down the strip again, so I kicked it straight down the strip and landed, much to the bewilderment of the assembled troops who wondered what the hell I was doing, so they ran out and grabbed the wings and walked me to the tie down position. In hindsight, I probably should have gone around, but it all ended well anyway. In the Zenair 701, I would probably say "%$#@", roll it into the wind, and carry on with the cross wind landing. David
Ben Longden Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Been there done that. :ah_oh: Firewalled the throttle, right stick, (wind was from my right) established a positive climb, flaps up and have another crack at it. I had a chat with the instructor afterwards, who was watching from the clubrooms... and he simply said "good decision". The way I looked at it, the gust was moving me across the runway just before wheels touched the deck, the right wing was being lifted and I felt I did not want to become part of the runway, so I decided to GTFOOT. Ben (Get the %^&* out of there)
youngmic Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Covered under the 2 rule aviation policy; 1/ Don't hit nuthin 2/ Don't do nuthin dumb. What should you do? Go around What shouldn't you do? Crash
spacesage Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Been in this situation, hit the throttle and went around. Also had a similar situation when landing on 550m strip on Keswick Island. Once you clear the western end of the strip you get a dramatic sink, ready freddy on the throttle. Push it up and go around, you can try a couple of times to get in. Taking off was even more fun. All this in a Piper Warrior. Altitude is your friend......
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