Bruce Tuncks Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 If you do as jackc suggests and copy a commercial design, making sure that if it is in a cyclonic area then you copy a similar one, then you should be safe. I hope you don't come across an insane buildings inspector like we used to have down here. He is famous for rejecting square footings, even though they were heavier than the round ones on the plan. Regarding the dome-type of building, it was good advice to work out the potential uplift from wind and to make sure it doesn't lift on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 You can get help here if you need it, just ask. There are a lot of well-qualified people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 The weakness in Hangars is the big opening and lack of support and bracing in that area.. Bolted in temporary struts tensioned chains would be ok if you knew bad weather was coming. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT5224 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said: If you do as jackc suggests and copy a commercial design, making sure that if it is in a cyclonic area then you copy a similar one, then you should be safe. I hope you don't come across an insane buildings inspector like we used to have down here. He is famous for rejecting square footings, even though they were heavier than the round ones on the plan. Regarding the dome-type of building, it was good advice to work out the potential uplift from wind and to make sure it doesn't lift on you. Thanks Bruce. Good advice. Fortunately ( or unfortunately!) my Father in Law is a German old school structural engineer who checks engineering designs for a living. Nothing is ever quite precise enough! So the potential uplift of our dome structure was carefully calculated before we hoisted it, and I ended up doubling the weight of concrete holding it down. Alan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Here's the big new Jab in the big new hangar. I like the engine, but it sure is an orphan these days. If anything, it runs too cool and I can't figure out why. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 14/07/2020 at 3:05 PM, Thruster88 said: A hanger for the RV6A is underway. Might even paint the floor in this one. nice i need more space that looks great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Have you got black plastic sheet under it? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Yes plastic under, all complete now with doors. Tiny hangar holds two wonderful short wing aircraft. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenlsa Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 15/10/2022 at 9:44 AM, Bruce Tuncks said: Here's the big new Jab in the big new hangar. I like the engine, but it sure is an orphan these days. If anything, it runs too cool and I can't figure out why. Bruce, I see that you still own the SK. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Sort of Ken. That was sharp of you to see the tail of the old sk. The hangar has the old sk, the newer 230 and the son's lancair in it and is the only hangar on the field so far. The Jabiru has been sold to a guy in Qld who is having trouble finding instruction where he lives. I reckon there is so much bureaucratic nonsense around instructing that it is not an attractive occupation at present... maybe others could enlighten me here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 “Learn To Fly” series on YouTube? Is his friend 🙂 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bruce Tuncks said: Sort of Ken. That was sharp of you to see the tail of the old sk. The hangar has the old sk, the newer 230 and the son's lancair in it and is the only hangar on the field so far. The Jabiru has been sold to a guy in Qld who is having trouble finding instruction where he lives. I reckon there is so much bureaucratic nonsense around instructing that it is not an attractive occupation at present... maybe others could enlighten me here You're actually living out in the Country now, where no services match what you get in the cities. For decades there was one instructor, so from Edenhope you had the choice of Naracoorte, 50 km away where the instructor flew in about one day a month from his base in Nhill (108 km away) to teach a group, unless you went to Mount Gambier (95 km away). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, jackc said: “Learn To Fly” series on YouTube? Is his friend 🙂 🙂 Not for a Jabiru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Probably difficult, as I am about to find out with an Instructor even. It has been done in the days before YouTube with simple aircraft but no one would admit to it 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Bruce, have you asked around SAAA? What area? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 15/10/2022 at 10:14 AM, Bruce Tuncks said: Here's the big new Jab in the big new hangar. I like the engine, but it sure is an orphan these days. If anything, it runs too cool and I can't figure out why. Perhaps bigger main jets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Bruce Tuncks said: The Jabiru has been sold to a guy in Qld who is having trouble finding instruction where he lives. Find a top instructor who does flying and theory. Stay in a local motel for 3 weeks and do the whole Pilot Certificate. This. Has the disadvantage that most likely he’ll only fly in the one weather type and be caught out by crosswinds, wind shear, storms etc. but they can be addressed when he has the aircraft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Really enjoying the thread and seeing the different approaches being used. Would it be possible for those who've built or had hangars built to give the dimensions, floor type and costs. (probably the approximate year as well) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 How many aircraft do you want in it? You don't want to have to move most of them to get yours out, Mild "hits" are hangar rash and dangerous. You don't want others moving your plane either. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propfarmer Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Ian said: Really enjoying the thread and seeing the different approaches being used. Would it be possible for those who've built or had hangars built to give the dimensions, floor type and costs. (probably the approximate year as well) Mine was built 5-10 years ago and is 12m x 12m. I think it cost about $7-10,000 in materials with 2nd hand iron used on walls. We used what we call crusher dust (I think crushed granite is similar) mixed with cement powder, watered, then rolled. It sets like concrete at a fraction of the cost. We were having a tennis court built at the same time so the guy who did the earthworks etc used his gear to get the floor beautifully level for me. I'm sure the crusher dust was less than $20/cu mt and I think i used 20-25 cubes, 24 bags of cement, my time and the hire of a small roller. I opted to build bi-fold doors which were a little tricky to get exactly square but it did away with the need for outrigger framework for sliding doors, sorry I don't have a picture of them. I can comfortably fit the Thruster and Jabiru in it along with the thruster trailer and a fridge in the corner for storage. Plan was for it to be big enough for Thruster and GA sized plane. It will be tight but i think it will work. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Where'd you get those beams? How's it braced. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propfarmer Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 They are called LSB (light steel beams), unfortunately no longer built here in Aus. The machine that built them and patent was sold to the US I believe. No need for bracing due to the depth of the beams and the wall iron provides strength as well, although I could have braced between the wall purlins (lazy). 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Hot mix rolled over your compacted base makes a nice easily repaired surface. Nev 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said: Sort of Ken. That was sharp of you to see the tail of the old sk. The hangar has the old sk, the newer 230 and the son's lancair in it and is the only hangar on the field so far. The Jabiru has been sold to a guy in Qld who is having trouble finding instruction where he lives. I reckon there is so much bureaucratic nonsense around instructing that it is not an attractive occupation at present... maybe others could enlighten me here It's easy to get training in a jabiru. Thrusters are very difficult to get instructors.down here anyway. I rang you about the sk Bruce. Just after the other bloke bought it. Nice aircraft. Edited October 22, 2022 by BrendAn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I would think Thrusters 2 seat are rarely on line. I think it was 1986 when the training one came out and i first flew one in front of a large audience at a Mangalore Airshow. I would have preferred to have done it less Publicly. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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