Aircraft Maintenance Logbook Review Service

[bluespider]

Had a bit more of a look and it’s tied to Breezylog, that appears to be a WEB interface? Must run cloud based? Now Breezylog wants $499 and that seems a setup fee? Then $22 per month? Went to it’s data registration page that came up in Spanish. With the information it needs, that data can also be used to set up the new AMLRS software. So, IF you already have Breezylog then most of your data can be imported across to AMLRS?

Being cloud based goes against all my principles of data execution and management. Third party data storage is the scourge of the earth. I will keep all my data backed up myself, thanks.

so, it looks like AMLRS or Breezylog are for not me.

 

Hmm we don't have any pages in Spanish as yet so I can't think where you might have found that!

 

Anyway regarding cloud data and BreezyLog...

 

These days much of our valuable data is being stored in the cloud and there are a number of people who may think that they object to the idea. On consideration they could be overlooking the main benefits. Let's think about this carefully and weigh up the pros and cons. Cloud based storage of data brings some huge benefits, one of which is being able to have constant access to your data anywhere you can get a half decent internet connection. For an online aircraft logbook if you were going to keep and maintain the data yourself then unless you feel like setting up your own private web server, well you probably can rule out being able to access your data remotely. That said, yes you could access your data by another means such as remote desktop. Doing things this way however is hardly likely to make usage convenient or cheap and it will be your problem when you can't get remote desktop access. It will also be your responsibility to back up your data and to keep it secure. Maybe, you think you could take all your data with you on your phone for instance, and you might think that's working out just fine that is until you loose or break your phone and find you have also lost all your valuable data.

 

Like it or not you are almost certain to already be using data stored in the cloud and in reading this post on the forum you are of course using the cloud right now. If you have a smartphone, for instance, or use any form of social media then you will be using the cloud for these as well. Let's not even mention your medicare and online banking. One concern that many have with cloud based data is that they worry about data security and while its true that social media accounts, card details held by airlines and many others, are all targets for hackers. For the most part such data breaches are rare and are more likely to affect users who don't pay much attention to their own security. Those who use the same password for everything and those that use easily guessed or short passwords are far more vulnerable. It's probably true that you should worry more about how your data might be used when it comes to services like social media, Alexa, and general web browsing but it's probably the nuisance of directed advertising which annoys us the most. Social media and similar accounts often get you to sign up to letting them do what the hell they like with your data. Private cloud accounts offering subscription services are usually in a completely different ballpark and have terms and conditions to leave you in far greater control of your own data. Of course, you should always read the terms and conditions before signing up for anything!

 

The question of who has access to my data and the answer to that, for a well-behaved and responsible cloud data provider, should be quite clear. The data is private, it belongs to you and nobody else should be able to access it except you and those you have granted permission to access. For an online aircraft logbook should the data provider dare to give access to your data to others, they would certainly be breaking the law if they did not seek your consent first. So in this particular case I don't think that the big brother is watching you argument really holds up as valid. The log book provider is absolutely not going to share access to your private data with an authority like RAAUS, CASA, EASA, FAA or anyone else at all. Perhaps there is perhaps one extreme exception and that's when the authorities get involved with a warrant to obtain your data. Now that's a pretty unlikely event unless you are not a law-abiding citizen of course.

 

Breezylog is an online aircraft logbook and yes it uses cloud based storage for your data so that you can access your data safely, securely and conveniently. Like any cloud data provider they take on the responsibility of keeping your data securely as a top priority. If you're still a semi-ludite then, for sure, you can keep your own records manually on paper, in excel or any other way you like and good luck with that as you are far more likely to overlook something important. If you want it all on paper, then that's no problem as breezy can print it all out for you at the click of a button.

 

It is a sad fact that manual aircraft record keeping is a tedious process which for many owners and maintainers lends itself well to human error and plain laziness. The result is that many paper logbooks if audited will be found to have errors and omissions, overlooked maintenance and incomplete record keeping. The results of this can of course be horrific in the more extreme cases. Maintenance is meant to be preventative, but say if a life limited component hadn't been replaced when it should then you could already be on borrowed time without even knowing it.

 

This is where an electronic logbook really comes into its own, it's a lot more than just simple record keeping and one of its main purposes is to provide you with a maintenance schedule for everything. Now you and your maintainer have a much clearer and concise picture and timetable of the tasks to be done and signed off. You can look at the schedule ahead and you can even save money by combining several tasks to be carried out at the same time. Should you leave a periodic inspection until overdue you will clearly see that your aircraft is effectively not flyable but you will notice long before that happens. You should automatically be made aware of any new airworthiness directives or service bulletins in order for you to review their applicability and take action when required.

 

If you care about your aircraft and own safety and would like to maintain your aircraft more efficiently and have scope for reducing your maintenance costs, then you should certainly consider Breezylog. You have noticed, of course, that it costs quite a lot to get onto the system to begin with! There is a very good reason for this and it's not about ripping you off or anything like that! So why does it cost me to get my aircraft onto the system in the first place? Well this is because it actually takes some highly skilled time and manpower to check through everything in your existing paper records, to set up the maintenance schedules, the applicable airworthiness directives, service bulletins, CAO100.5 and more. We have to make sure that all parts are recorded correctly effectively building a model of your aircarft assembly. It takes time and unfortunately we can't do it for free. We want to make sure that your logbooks are in good shape and this is what the setup fee is all about. For flying schools and larger organizations having personel with the right experience and skills we will consider letting you set up your own aircraft on the system but you must understand that it is no simple task and this is why we don't make all of the "admin" facilities available to ordinary users. If you're an aircraft owner, regardless of whether you think your existing records are in good shape, we can help you get on to the system, sort out any issues and help you and your maintainer service your aircraft correctly and efficiently, with a lot less time and effort. A well maintained aircraft with perfect records will attract a better price and be easier to sell when the time comes for that upgrade.

 

Then there is the ongoing monthly cost of $22 AUD (for a single engine craft) and for this you have to understand that while we want to keep your costs as low as possible we still need it to be commercially viable for us. Building and maintaining any large software system takes plenty of time and money and the monthly fee goes towards this. We firmly believe that we offer great value and that once you have tried BreezyLog you will never look back.

 

Dave

[Mhalc]

I think they also supply a POH and all the ADs and other relevant information for your chosen aircraft with updates?

How would this apply to “experimental amateur built” (EAB) or the Australian equivalent? Where the builder is the manufacturer responsible for the POH and AD’s (airframe)?

[M61A1]

Hmm we don't have any pages in Spanish as yet so I can't think where you might have found that!

 

Anyway regarding cloud data and BreezyLog...

 

These days much of our valuable data is being stored in the cloud and there are a number of people who may think that they object to the idea. On consideration they could be overlooking the main benefits. Let's think about this carefully and weigh up the pros and cons. Cloud based storage of data brings some huge benefits, one of which is being able to have constant access to your data anywhere you can get a half decent internet connection. For an online aircraft logbook if you were going to keep and maintain the data yourself then unless you feel like setting up your own private web server, well you probably can rule out being able to access your data remotely. That said, yes you could access your data by another means such as remote desktop. Doing things this way however is hardly likely to make usage convenient or cheap and it will be your problem when you can't get remote desktop access. It will also be your responsibility to back up your data and to keep it secure. Maybe, you think you could take all your data with you on your phone for instance, and you might think that's working out just fine that is until you loose or break your phone and find you have also lost all your valuable data.

 

Like it or not you are almost certain to already be using data stored in the cloud and in reading this post on the forum you are of course using the cloud right now. If you have a smartphone, for instance, or use any form of social media then you will be using the cloud for these as well. Let's not even mention your medicare and online banking. One concern that many have with cloud based data is that they worry about data security and while its true that social media accounts, card details held by airlines and many others, are all targets for hackers. For the most part such data breaches are rare and are more likely to affect users who don't pay much attention to their own security. Those who use the same password for everything and those that use easily guessed or short passwords are far more vulnerable. It's probably true that you should worry more about how your data might be used when it comes to services like social media, Alexa, and general web browsing but it's probably the nuisance of directed advertising which annoys us the most. Social media and similar accounts often get you to sign up to letting them do what the hell they like with your data. Private cloud accounts offering subscription services are usually in a completely different ballpark and have terms and conditions to leave you in far greater control of your own data. Of course, you should always read the terms and conditions before signing up for anything!

 

The question of who has access to my data and the answer to that, for a well-behaved and responsible cloud data provider, should be quite clear. The data is private, it belongs to you and nobody else should be able to access it except you and those you have granted permission to access. For an online aircraft logbook should the data provider dare to give access to your data to others, they would certainly be breaking the law if they did not seek your consent first. So in this particular case I don't think that the big brother is watching you argument really holds up as valid. The log book provider is absolutely not going to share access to your private data with an authority like RAAUS, CASA, EASA, FAA or anyone else at all. Perhaps there is perhaps one extreme exception and that's when the authorities get involved with a warrant to obtain your data. Now that's a pretty unlikely event unless you are not a law-abiding citizen of course.

 

Breezylog is an online aircraft logbook and yes it uses cloud based storage for your data so that you can access your data safely, securely and conveniently. Like any cloud data provider they take on the responsibility of keeping your data securely as a top priority. If you're still a semi-ludite then, for sure, you can keep your own records manually on paper, in excel or any other way you like and good luck with that as you are far more likely to overlook something important. If you want it all on paper, then that's no problem as breezy can print it all out for you at the click of a button.

 

It is a sad fact that manual aircraft record keeping is a tedious process which for many owners and maintainers lends itself well to human error and plain laziness. The result is that many paper logbooks if audited will be found to have errors and omissions, overlooked maintenance and incomplete record keeping. The results of this can of course be horrific in the more extreme cases. Maintenance is meant to be preventative, but say if a life limited component hadn't been replaced when it should then you could already be on borrowed time without even knowing it.

 

This is where an electronic logbook really comes into its own, it's a lot more than just simple record keeping and one of its main purposes is to provide you with a maintenance schedule for everything. Now you and your maintainer have a much clearer and concise picture and timetable of the tasks to be done and signed off. You can look at the schedule ahead and you can even save money by combining several tasks to be carried out at the same time. Should you leave a periodic inspection until overdue you will clearly see that your aircraft is effectively not flyable but you will notice long before that happens. You should automatically be made aware of any new airworthiness directives or service bulletins in order for you to review their applicability and take action when required.

 

If you care about your aircraft and own safety and would like to maintain your aircraft more efficiently and have scope for reducing your maintenance costs, then you should certainly consider Breezylog. You have noticed, of course, that it costs quite a lot to get onto the system to begin with! There is a very good reason for this and it's not about ripping you off or anything like that! So why does it cost me to get my aircraft onto the system in the first place? Well this is because it actually takes some highly skilled time and manpower to check through everything in your existing paper records, to set up the maintenance schedules, the applicable airworthiness directives, service bulletins, CAO100.5 and more. We have to make sure that all parts are recorded correctly effectively building a model of your aircarft assembly. It takes time and unfortunately we can't do it for free. We want to make sure that your logbooks are in good shape and this is what the setup fee is all about. For flying schools and larger organizations having personel with the right experience and skills we will consider letting you set up your own aircraft on the system but you must understand that it is no simple task and this is why we don't make all of the "admin" facilities available to ordinary users. If you're an aircraft owner, regardless of whether you think your existing records are in good shape, we can help you get on to the system, sort out any issues and help you and your maintainer service your aircraft correctly and efficiently, with a lot less time and effort. A well maintained aircraft with perfect records will attract a better price and be easier to sell when the time comes for that upgrade.

 

Then there is the ongoing monthly cost of $22 AUD (for a single engine craft) and for this you have to understand that while we want to keep your costs as low as possible we still need it to be commercially viable for us. Building and maintaining any large software system takes plenty of time and money and the monthly fee goes towards this. We firmly believe that we offer great value and that once you have tried BreezyLog you will never look back.

 

Dave

I object to cloud and web based logbooks because I spend half my life in areas with no coverage, something someone living in Europe may not be familiar with.

[Jim McDowall]

And if the cloud storage provider goes broke what happens - will the receiver/liquidator sell your data to ????. And will the new owner jack up the storage fees which gets passed on to the end-user? If the aircraft is sold does the cloud account go with the aircraft? Data backups and cross platform data transfer issues can be problematic. It is only a matter of time before a ransomware attack on a cloud provider is successful - then what?

[KRviator]

Hmm we don't have any pages in Spanish as yet so I can't think where you might have found that!

No Spanish? Then Cannabis Oil perhaps?!? Who is Stuart Erskine and why is he advertising cannibis-related products on your website?

 

Perhaps not the best thing to be advertising under the "Flight Safety Solutions" banner? Just Sayin....

[Stuart Erskine]

Hi KRviator.. Thank you for this alert. I'm very new to WordPress, and have only recently created our FSS pages, and, hands up! the word-press admin password was not really that great and we were quickly high-jacked! I've also just learned, thanks to your timely alert, that word-press is highly susceptible to hacking if long admin passwords (12 digits plus) are not used. Lesson Learnt. Who is Stuart Erskine? Well that's me.. please feel free to call me on 0407 243001 if you prefer to. Anyone knowing me or any of the Flight Safety Solutions / BreezyLog team, would have realised this incident was clearly due to a malicious hack as I'm sure you yourself would have done. Thanks to you we caught it early and now we can resume our endeavours helping pilots fly safely and maintain aircraft correctly. Best Regards, Stuart.

[KRviator]

Hi KRviator.. Thank you for this alert. I'm very new to WordPress, and have only recently created our FSS pages, and, hands up! the word-press admin password was not really that great and we were quickly high-jacked! I've also just learned, thanks to your timely alert, that word-press is highly susceptible to hacking if long admin passwords (12 digits plus) are not used. Lesson Learnt. Who is Stuart Erskine? Well that's me.. please feel free to call me on 0407 243001 if you prefer to. Anyone knowing me or any of the Flight Safety Solutions / BreezyLog team, would have realised this incident was clearly due to a malicious hack as I'm sure you yourself would have done. Thanks to you we caught it early and now we can resume our endeavours helping pilots fly safely and maintain aircraft correctly. Best Regards, Stuart.

It's not a good look, you're asking pilots to trust your company with, what is quite valuable really, digital data but you've admitted your very own website got hacked because you didn't understand how easy it would be for someone to do. And not only did it get hacked, you didn't pick up on the fact that it had been.

 

I'm not sure which is worse, but what I am sure about is I will be ensuring my aircraft data is kept under my control.

[Stuart Erskine]

It's not a good look, you're asking pilots to trust your company with, what is quite valuable really, digital data but you've admitted your very own website got hacked because you didn't understand how easy it would be for someone to do. And not only did it get hacked, you didn't pick up on the fact that it had been.

 

I'm not sure which is worse, but what I am sure about is I will be ensuring my aircraft data is kept under my control.

Mate.. you are entitled to your opinion but please contain yourself to known facts before slamming our service. BreezyLog is far removed from WordPress and the BreezyLog records system security exceeds all the security requirements required of it. No one is forcing you to do anything and I feel that your negativity serves no useful purpose to anyone if it's totally unfounded. A mistake was made on another web site and it was rectified. I'm sorry we are unable to assist you and I thank you again for alerting us. I'm not commenting further on this. Regards, Stuart.

[KRviator]

Mate.. you are entitled to your opinion but please contain yourself to known facts before slamming our service.

Show me where I've had a crack at your product?

 

The FACTS are your website was advertising cannabis-related products in a post attributed to Stuart Erskine. I simply pointed out that you are asking aircraft owners to trust your company with very valuable data, data that may not be able to be reproduced if it were lost, yet you didn't secure your own website well enough that it was apparently hacked to be selling cannabis-related products under the banner of "Flight Safety Solutions" and your name. IF you can't secure your own website, or even notice when it has been compromised then in my view it doesn't bode well for securing customers data.

[Stuart Erskine]

A company that was only incorporated in October 2019, which looks to be run by Stuart Erskine, who owns or is affiliated with BreezyLog, an electronic logbook they're toting as an alternative to paper-based versions and which he has been spruiking on the RAAus FB page.

 

I think I'll pass. What are they going to say? Your logbook is not compliant, therefore you're in breach of CAO 100.5, you're grounded! And an instant criminal because 99.9999999999999995% of aviation legislation in Australia is a Strict Liability offence. And because we change our Privacy Policy willy-nilly with no notice to the membership, we're dobbing on you to CASA because our Privacy Policy says we can!

 

Lol.. not at all. Just to clear up a few things.. its a service that provides hyperlinks to the many documents required to ensure compliance. We don't see or want your log books. We provide you the information to do it yourself. If you've ever researched every document that you may need to check to ensure compliance, CAO's SBs, etc you'll appreciate its a lot of work.. hours in fact for some aircraft. By keeping all this data for each aircraft on a database, its a matter of loading the data appropriate to your aircraft and topping it up with latest revisions from web sites before dispatch. No information has been or would ever be passed to RAAus or anyone else and they don't even know the names of the clients. I'm sorry if the concept of the service offends some people but I can assure you the time spent designing it and setting it up was far longer than some of the members on here would ever put into helping other people to be and remain compliant. Like many other services, it is entirely optional and has helped many people. Yes.. its also an easy way to start a fresh compliant BreezyLog Aircraft online logbook, which again is entirely optional. Regards, Stuart.

[RFguy]

Seems like Brezylog has a bit to finish

and also MUST MUST be able to work OFFLINE. It if cannot be used offline then it is USELESS in Australia.

 

.....So that changes, additions etc can be editing and done while OFFLINE and then when ONLINE, maybe a week later, the system synchronizes itself......

otherwise in a country like Australia such a system is first grade highest quality bovine faeces !