New2flying Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 A pilot at the airport has a regular habit of bringing their two dogs by ute to the airport, where it just lounges around in the offices/common area. Sometimes even accompanies them to cockpit, secure areas of the airport? Surely this isn't allowed? Would anyone be able to assist me in finding the specific regulation if it is/isn't allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Of course they,r allowed !. Didn,t you read about the pilot ( with sunglasses ) walking a blind persons assistance dog to the plane. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New2flying Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Sounds scary. Fortunately I found this: http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_reg/car1988263/s256a.html Still nothing definitive about the presence of pets in the clubrooms, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dog lovers can be a real nuisance to all members of the public - who do not necessarily want to fawn over pet-owners dogs, as most dog owners expect other people to. Dogs are the equivalent of small children, and there are hundreds of council rules and regulations applicable to dog owners and control of their dogs - because out-of-control dogs are extremely annoying to most other people. Dogs are to be kept on a leash, and under control at all times they are in a "public place". A "public place" is somewhere where the public can freely attend. Private premises are not public places, and dog control rules are relaxed there, to the level that a dog must only be confined to the private premises, and not allowed to roam freely in public. A dog not on a leash in an airside area is a real threat to aviation safety, and is not allowed. If someone brings an unleashed/uncaged dog into that area, they are in breach of aviation or council regulations. Here is an airside vehicle control manual for Cairns airport, you will find under Section 7.8, that the only uncaged dogs allowed airside, are officially trained dogs, such as law enforcement dogs and guide dogs. Approval must be obtained for any other dog to be airside. https://www.cairnsairport.com.au/assets/documents/3006-AO-Airside-Vehicle-Control-Manual-V4-Complete.compressed.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Every airstrip could be different. I agree that dogs can be a menace at airports, but I have flying friends who have a dog and it is no problem. as far as I am concerned it is up to whoever is controlling the strip to make the rules. I fly off a privately owned strip and a woman from a neighbouring property walked her alsation past the hangars, along the side of the strip. I advised her that the dog could be a problem and later she returned, still with the dog running loose. It decided to try to attack a plane, but the pilot shut down before the dog could reach the prop. Lots of loud words were exchanged and the owners son later berated me for my attitude, but eventually backed down when I explained what could have happened. Nobody seems to realise that the dog is at greater risk than the plane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 When ground Running my Hummel Bird, I have a red flashing light on !. AND No Dogs Cats or Kids, around my Spinning at 3,000 RPM ( WOT ) prop, even I shudder at the thought of flesh getting chopped up. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) A privately-owned airstrip is a different kettle of fish, as it would normally require any airstrip user to contact the owner, to gain permission to use it. As such, it is the equivalent of a private property, and the local council rules and regulations for dogs in public places don't apply. However, if a private airstrip owner allows free general public access to his airstrip, then the local council rules and regulations for dogs in public areas, would then apply. In my council area, all dogs must be kept on a leash no longer than 2 metres when in a public place. When a dog is allowed to be unleashed in a recognised, designated dog exercise area, the owner is still obliged to carry a lead and restrain the dog if it is causing distress to other people, or other dogs. Any dog owner who allows his/her dog to attack someone - even on their property, if the attacked person has entered the property without malice - faces serious penalties ranging from $3000 to $10,000. There are a sizeable number of irresponsible dog owners who feel that they have no obligation to follow dog control rules and regulations - and these people just make it harder for everyone. Edited January 16, 2021 by onetrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Who puts fish in a kettle...... that's silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dogs are OK, its wombats that bother me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hangar Owners can bring their dog(s) to our Aerodrome but they must be kept under control. Control varies among dog owners. When I take my dog to the aerodrome he wanders about checking all the smells and then settles down in the shade next to or in the hangar. He is quite happy just to watch aircraft taxi along & keeps well out of the way. Anyone who has an unruly dog is requested to keep it on a lead or if it chases cars or aircraft to take it home & not bring it back. Kangaroos are out biggest problem followed by various birds including Wedgetails, Ibis & occasionally flocks of Corellas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Sounds like you Need a control Dog to keep your runway clear of Native fauna . spacesailor Edited January 16, 2021 by spacesailor Hit wron button 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Had to chuckle at the runway on Cocos-Keeling Islands. The Cocos Malays love their bantams, and they are on the loose (feral) everywhere. They can fly quite a distance (100M+) and reach probably 15M in altitude. As there's no runway fencing on Cocos' West Island, the aircraft prepares for takeoff - and the bloke in the runway ute, barrels up and down the runway, chasing the bantams back into the bush surrounding the runway! When he gives the all-clear, the flight can take off. I don't know if any aircraft has had a bantam strike on takeoff there, but I've never heard of one, the bantams seem to know to keep clear of the aircraft. I got a fridge magnet from when we stayed on Cocos - it's got a cartoon drawing of five, wild-looking bantams on it, and the caption, "Feral Chook Island"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New2flying Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, onetrack said: Had to chuckle at the runway on Cocos-Keeling Islands. The Cocos Malays love their bantams, and they are on the loose (feral) everywhere. They can fly quite a distance (100M+) and reach probably 15M in altitude. As there's no runway fencing on Cocos' West Island, the aircraft prepares for takeoff - and the bloke in the runway ute, barrels up and down the runway, chasing the bantams back into the bush surrounding the runway! When he gives the all-clear, the flight can take off. I don't know if any aircraft has had a bantam strike on takeoff there, but I've never heard of one, the bantams seem to know to keep clear of the aircraft. I got a fridge magnet from when we stayed on Cocos - it's got a cartoon drawing of five, wild-looking bantams on it, and the caption, "Feral Chook Island"! I had to laugh at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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