Tecnam Crash in NZ 28/04/2021

[kgwilson]

Just don't crash it. Your body has mass too and it doesn't like being rearranged.

[spacesailor]

IT DID NOT TURN TO THE RIGHT ,.

as specified by those crash test people ( dummies ).

Next time l,m heading for a headon ! I must try to remember.

TURN RIGHT.

spacesailor

Edited May 1, 2021 by spacesailor
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[facthunter]

Won't help you much if you hit a rock cliff cement pillar or a thick based tree. It's how quickly you change speed that matters. Double the speed, four times the force. Nev

[kgwilson]

The ANCAP crash test comprises a 50% offset head on collision with a 1400kg solid mass with a crushable aluminium front to simulate the front of the oncoming car with a closing speed of 100kmh. There is also a full width frontal test with a solid wall with no deformable element at 50 kmh, and a side impact (T-bone) with a 1400 kg mass with a crushable front at 60kmh. There are other requirements for the rating including Adult and Child protection, pedestrian protection and safety assist systems. Details are at  https://www.ancap.com.au/

 

Most new vehicles get 5 stars, though the new Mitsubishi Express van got none. Utes and some 4wd vehicles do not fare well. The worst car since 2017 was the Ford Mustang, then 4wds Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Gladiator & Suzuki Jimny all with 3 stars. Then back to 2016 & several Chinese Utes & people movers. 

 

The reason for the offset test is not given but it would seem to me that this must come from actual crash statistics as most head ons are likely to be offset rather than full frontal. The rating system is continuously upgraded so when buying a car look for 5 stars with the latest date.

[APenNameAndThatA]

On 29/04/2021 at 10:56 AM, spacesailor said:

SO !

A Nissan Micro, having a headon smash with a Toyota LandCruiser, will hurt thse in the Big Toyota MORE.

NOT

From what lv,e witnessed, those little cars Fold all the way back to the rear seats.

Front or rear crash. They just dont hold together well.

In Saudi Arabia, those small cars Are BANNED from their roads, for saftey,s sake.

spacesailor

There is no need to straw man people on this website. No one even hinted that hitting a LC with a Micra would hurt the LC more. It is hard enough to have a sensible discussion on here as it is. 

[spacesailor]

NO

But, my daughter,s Corolla was rearended, with the rear seat pushed up behind her seat, 

And that was in town ,!.  ( AFTER DROPPING KIDS OFF )

And by a HoldenKingswood.

Size matters !.

spacesailor

Edited May 1, 2021 by spacesailor
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[Sloper]

Lots of rust dust coming out of the sills.

 

Now if that was a 57 instead of 59 it would have looked very different.

Ladder type chassis as against a perimeter one.

 

Now if l have a accident in the Sloper (see avatar) l will be fine.

Ejected out through the safty glass windscreen and found safley 50m away from the fireball.

 

regards Bruce

[onetrack]

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Ejected out through the safty glass windscreen and found safley 50m away from the fireball.

Unfortunately, that scenario only happens in the American action movies. The reality is, if you get ejected from a vehicle in a car crash, you will more than likely die when your body strikes terra firma, or some obstruction. That principle is one of the major principles behind seatbelts.

 

I lost a very good youthful employee in 1994. 20 yr old John was an excellent employee, and a pretty good driver. He took one of my dual-cab Hiluxes to go to work, relieving another bloke on shift. It was mid-morning and a fine day.

He was up to speed on all our business operation safety manuals, and he knew that seatbelt wearing was strictly enforced. He apparently stopped at a lunch bar on the way to work, to grab a bite to eat.

He drove out to the job on one of W.A.'s finest Goldfields highways, a wide, smooth highway built to national highway standards. The countryside has no major vegetation, just scrub and small trees, and the roadsides are well-cleared.

 

For some reason only ever known to him, he never fastened his seatbelt when he got back in the Hilux. I have no idea why he would do this, apart from making it easier to eat his snack.

For some other unknown reason, a little way out of town, he drifted off the bitumen at 110kph, onto the gravel/calcrete shoulder. I guess it was inattention, perhaps associated with snacking at the wheel.

Ordinarily, this drifting off the edge of the bitumen poses no problem to most drivers - and certainly not John, who was formerly a courier ute driver. But this day, a simple set of circumstances conspired against him.

 

As he drifted off the sealed section, he hit a small white timber post, one of the multitude of shoulder road markers. They snap and shatter pretty easily, and rarely do more than minor damage.

As John hit the post, it broke at ground level, and it also broke in halves. He hit the post, in line with the LHS wheels.

As the front wheel ran over the bottom portion of the post, and it came out from under the wheel, it stood up at 45° and hit the LHS rear tyre, smack dead centre in the middle of the tread.

 

Now these were quality Bridgestone tyres on the Hilux, and they can take plenty of punishment. But a hit at 90° to the tread with a fairly solid piece of 50 x 75mm timber at 110kmh is not something they're designed to handle.

The broken timber post went straight through the tread of the tyre, and it exploded into rubber salad. Right about then, John was applying a modest amount of swerve to the right, to straighten up, to come back onto the bitumen.

 

But he was unaware the LHS rear wheel was now totally bereft of any tyre support. As he swerved right, the lack of tyre support for the LHS rear wheel meant his modest swerve correction to the right, promptly became a MAJOR course deflection.

The Hilux promptly, and almost instantaneously, did a right turn in milliseconds, ending up at 90° to the highway as it broadsided across it, initiated by a now-tyreless LHS rear rim.

4WD dual-cab Hiluxes have a high COG, and they roll over pretty easily. At 110 kmh, with a rapid 90° deviation to the line of travel, the result was disastrous. The Hilux rolled, 2-1/2 times, still doing 110kmh.

 

Thanks to not wearing his seatbelt, John was immediately ejected from the rolling Hilux, and landed head-first on the road - at a velocity that no human could tolerate. He broke his neck instantly, and death was virtually instantaneous.

It was a very sad end for a young bloke who was a keen and happy employee, and well-liked. What made it worse, he was the only boy in a family of 6. I had to tell some of his family of his death, and it's not a task I ever want again.

Vehicles today are far safer than anything we've ever had in decades past, and the road toll is on a continuing, if uneven, downward trend. But people still get careless at the wheel - and carelessness and distraction are our biggest road killers.

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by onetrack