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Light plane down in ocean off Redcliffe (Brisbane) 19-12-21

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Kyle Communications Well-known member

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I was just speaking to someone at redcliffe about another matter and he told me about it..its a private Rockwell Cammander..engine failure apparently.. not sure how many POB or if they are ok

 

WayneL Well-known member

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Didn't get the wheels up in time to ditch by the looks, let's hope for a good outcome for the occupants.

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derekliston Well-known member

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Two absolute tragedies involving children this close to Christmas, absolutely awful. Family Christmases ruined for ever! So very very sad.

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Chris SS Well-known member

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There is a Youtube video simulation of the accident based on ADSB data.  It looks from the simulation as though he lost the engine late on crosswind at 700ft.  It looks like he turned back to mainland and almost made it - but sadly missed it only just….

Keeping the gear up would have given him that extra bit of glide distance - I wonder at what stage he selected gear down?  

My heart goes out to the families affected by this tragedy.  Is there something in this that we can learn?  Maybe circuits over water should be conducted closer to land? Keep gear up when over water?

rgmwa Well-known member

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Looks to me that he did what most pilots would have done apart from perhaps the early left turn although maybe that was due to his engine problem. No steep turns, didn’t stall in the turn, although perhaps tried to stretch the glide and stalled wings level just before he went in. Would probably have come out alright if the gear had been up.

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Hongie Well-known member

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The youtuber, as far as i can tell, has simply made it up, in an effort to garner views... there is no adsb data available for todays flight from what I can tell. The last adsb data available for WMM (that i can find) is from the 17/10. In saying that, its possible, although i'm not sure if it is the done thing, that the ATSB has contacted the many adsb sites and requested the data to be purged after the fact.

 

Regardless, it's very poor form of the youtuber to put out a simulation on the day of this happening!

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BLA82 Well-known member

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A father and two very young kids were lost. My sincere condolences to the poor mum.

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Ando Well-known member

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8 hours ago, Hongie said:

The youtuber, as far as i can tell, has simply made it up, in an effort to garner views... there is no adsb data available for todays flight from what I can tell. The last adsb data available for WMM (that i can find) is from the 17/10. In saying that, its possible, although i'm not sure if it is the done thing, that the ATSB has contacted the many adsb sites and requested the data to be purged after the fact.

 

Regardless, it's very poor form of the youtuber to put out a simulation on the day of this happening!

Exactly what I thought 

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F10 Well-known member

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This is a very tragic crash. I was wondering why the gear was down, it should have been left up till landing was assured. The 114 is a nice machine, but I think it only has one door? Tragic if fuselage distortion prevented the door opening, if people were in a condition to get out. Always unlatch doors for ditching. Tragic, tragic for those poor kids. A terrible event.

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Rastus Well-known member

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5 minutes ago, F10 said:

This is a very tragic crash. I was wondering why the gear was down, it should have been left up till landing was assured. The 114 is a nice machine, but I think it only has one door? Tragic if fuselage distortion prevented the door opening, if people were in a condition to get out. Always unlatch doors for ditching. Tragic, tragic for those poor kids. A terrible event.

Two doors.  Really nice aeroplane.  Not a quick as a Bonza, but very comfortable an roomy.

 

derekliston Well-known member

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10 hours ago, F10 said:

This is a very tragic crash. I was wondering why the gear was down, it should have been left up till landing was assured. The 114 is a nice machine, but I think it only has one door? Tragic if fuselage distortion prevented the door opening, if people were in a condition to get out. Always unlatch doors for ditching. Tragic, tragic for those poor kids. A terrible event.

We will never know the answer to that!

facthunter Well-known member

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The rear section of the fuselage is crumpled so had fair loads applied to it.. It's a tragic end to what should have been a fun occasion. In a retract plane the recommendation is to leave the gear up for ditching, but we don't know the circumstances of that. The electrics may have been not up to it with the motor stopped. Nev

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