facthunter Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 If People are intent on suicide, no one worries about limits. But the plane would have to be forced into such a high speed dive as there's lots of trim change. Maybe there was a struggle going on. Quite likely I would say. The Malaysian one was similar. Mentally disturbed pilot and pre planned. Nev 1
Bruce Tuncks Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 I truly doubt about the vertical dive.... 20,000 ft in under 2 mins is not a vertical dive, but it is believable. Gosh they are well-designed planes. That's a vertical speed of 100 knots. I think that they had to change the airbrake rule on gliders from a vertical dive to a 45 degree dive. Now 45 degrees sure feels like vertical, but it would be a lot less likely to cause flutter. Wheels down are draggy and stronger, but their doors would rip off too. Even if you had the plane in a dirty configuration, would not the flaps rip off first? My Jabiru has 85 knots max flap speed, and I sure could exceed this in a dive.
onetrack Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 There was a video that the Chinese produced, of the aircraft diving. The angle of the dive looked to be almost vertical. Only the winglets tore off in the dive, as I understand. https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1505839795813167106?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1505839795813167106|twgr^71d43cd1f990d9c04b89d32c6480ea3c1d36004c|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnnyjet.com%2Fdisturbing-video-of-china-eastern-737-800-plane-nose-diving%2F
facthunter Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 In Neither controlled emergency descent do you exceed any limits. If you are committing suicide I don't think it would matter to the Pilot. It's likely they wouldn't even pull the power off.. Getting down safely is not a consideration. Nev 1
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