facthunter Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 It's a wild ride though. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 If People are intent on suicide, no one worries about limits. But the plane would have to be forced into such a high speed dive as there's lots of trim change. Maybe there was a struggle going on. Quite likely I would say. The Malaysian one was similar. Mentally disturbed pilot and pre planned. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I truly doubt about the vertical dive.... 20,000 ft in under 2 mins is not a vertical dive, but it is believable. Gosh they are well-designed planes. That's a vertical speed of 100 knots. I think that they had to change the airbrake rule on gliders from a vertical dive to a 45 degree dive. Now 45 degrees sure feels like vertical, but it would be a lot less likely to cause flutter. Wheels down are draggy and stronger, but their doors would rip off too. Even if you had the plane in a dirty configuration, would not the flaps rip off first? My Jabiru has 85 knots max flap speed, and I sure could exceed this in a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 There was a video that the Chinese produced, of the aircraft diving. The angle of the dive looked to be almost vertical. Only the winglets tore off in the dive, as I understand. https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1505839795813167106?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1505839795813167106|twgr^71d43cd1f990d9c04b89d32c6480ea3c1d36004c|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnnyjet.com%2Fdisturbing-video-of-china-eastern-737-800-plane-nose-diving%2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 In Neither controlled emergency descent do you exceed any limits. If you are committing suicide I don't think it would matter to the Pilot. It's likely they wouldn't even pull the power off.. Getting down safely is not a consideration. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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