How much more ridiculous can Red Bull get?

[red750]

https://newatlas.com/aircraft/plane-swap-red-bull/?utm_source=New+Atlas+Subscribers&utm_campaign=57e3687167-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_03_23_01_44&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-57e3687167-93094661

[Marty_d]

Reading that article, I'd rather attempt that stunt than what one of the pilots has done previously... in 2016, he jumped out of a plane at 25,000 ft (7,620 m) with neither a parachute nor a wingsuit on, free-falling all the way down before being caught in a 100-by-100-ft (30-by-30-m) Dyneema net.

[kgwilson]

I saw the video of that. He either had complete 100% confidence of his ability to ensure directional control or he is a complete 100% adrenaline freak nutter.

[APenNameAndThatA]

On 25/3/2022 at 7:18 AM, kgwilson said:

I saw the video of that. He either had complete 100% confidence of his ability to ensure directional control or he is a complete 100% adrenaline freak nutter.

Both

[APenNameAndThatA]

On 24/3/2022 at 10:14 PM, Marty_d said:

Reading that article, I'd rather attempt that stunt than what one of the pilots has done previously... in 2016, he jumped out of a plane at 25,000 ft (7,620 m) with neither a parachute nor a wingsuit on, free-falling all the way down before being caught in a 100-by-100-ft (30-by-30-m) Dyneema net.

Thank you for posting this. Un b leevable. 

[rgmwa]

Would have been hard for his wife to watch.

 

[Marty_d]

12 minutes ago, rgmwa said:

Would have been hard for his wife to watch.

 

Would have been a lot harder to watch if he missed the net!

[Bruce Tuncks]

Well he had a lot if incentive to land on the net huh.

There was a WW2 guy who free-fell and landed on pine trees and then a slope with snow.  He jumped out as he saw his parachute on fire and he opted to die without being burned.

 

[Flightrite]

There will always be idiots out there to entertain us😂

[Thruster88]

I have a question. The pair of Cessna 182's that will be used in the stunt have a MASSIVE air brake that extends out between the main gear, like 1.5 metre from the centre line of the aircraft. Seeing video of the aircraft in the vertical dive the elevator is in the neutral position, how can this be. We know how much pitch trim is required just with flaps extended. 

Is it real? We all saw Trevor Jacob jump (sky dive) from his "stricken" plane and then be able to miraculously record it as it flew way beneath him into the mountain. Maybe a he got very lucky and a thermal lifted him right up🤔

 

https://www.redbull.com/us-en/the-science-behind-plane-swap

Edited April 19, 2022 by Thruster88

[Flightrite]

The lift vector is no longer acting against gravity, the A/P will manipulate the elevator in order to create zero lift in any direction. Look at the recent China B737 that was captured on video going vertically down, my guess in that case was the plane was being manipulated, pilot suicide! In the stunt the same input is being created. 

Edited April 19, 2022 by Flightrite

[red750]

There's an ad doing the rounds on the TV. Can't remember who it's for. Four guys in a single wing suit (or four wing suits joined together.)

[Thruster88]

59 minutes ago, Flightrite said:

The lift vector is no longer acting against gravity, the A/P will manipulate the elevator in order to create zero lift in any direction. Look at the recent China B737 that was captured on video going vertically down, my guess in that case was the plane was being manipulated, pilot suicide! In the stunt the same input is being created. 

Agree there is no lift. They say the dive brake is creating 90% of the drag in the vertical dive and it is so far off the normal aerodynamic "centre" that the elevator would have to generate a considerable down force to stop the aircraft pitching nose down. 

[facthunter]

Any wing has a "zero lift" Angle of attack position.. If it's a lifting section (non symmetrical) it will be a negative angle. In a vertical dive the C of G  in the vertical sense  relative to the fuselage fore and aft axis is where gravity acts through. and gravity acts like thrust does normally in these circumstances. If the major drag is off  centre of the Cof G the moment so caused will have to be counteracted by force exerted by the Elevator by UP elevator positioning.  Nev

[Thruster88]

On 19/04/2022 at 6:55 PM, Thruster88 said:

Agree there is no lift. They say the dive brake is creating 90% of the drag in the vertical dive and it is so far off the normal aerodynamic "centre" that the elevator would have to generate a considerable down force to stop the aircraft pitching nose down. 

One of the cessna 182's did not have sufficient elevator authority to overcome the pitch down from the dive brake and went inverted. One less cessna in the world. Will the pilot get their license pulled like Trevor. 

[onetrack]

It will be very interesting to see the FAA's response to this idiotically stupid stunt. What a waste of a perfectly good aircraft. Of course, no-one was put in any danger, people do this all the time in the U.S., just for kicks!  

 

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/disaster-and-emergency/plane-swap-stunt-trick-goes-horribly-wrong-as-plane-spirals-out-of-control-c-6572293

[Thruster88]

The cessna was saved by a BRS whole aircraft parachute system. I have done one of these installations on a 182, good system if you need it.

[onetrack]

Yeah, right. I don't think the system worked as planned - and the FAA is on their case, as the stunt wasn't approved, due to safety grounds. So they went ahead, anyway. Sounds like this pair went to the same idiot academy as Trevor Jacob.

 

https://7news.com.au/sport/red-bull-plane-swap-stunt-goes-horribly-wrong-as-out-of-control-aircraft-spirals-towards-crash-landing-c-6571152

 

The pairs petition to the FAA for exemption, and the FAA's response are detailed in the link below. As to be expected, the FAA deemed the pair had put up inadequate reasons for the stunt, and the FAA had refused to sanction similar stunts, one of which was jumping out of a flying aircraft, and allowing it to crash-land.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10750039/Mid-air-plane-swap-skydive-sponsored-Red-Bull-fails-one-aircraft-crashed.html

 

Edited April 25, 2022 by onetrack

[Thruster88]

I guess the chute failed due to the aircraft being stalled inverted due to the massive dive brake. 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Thruster88

[Flightrite]

At least these fools are entertaining😂 Seems like everything stupid is made in America!

[pmccarthy]

2 hours ago, Flightrite said:

At least these fools are entertaining😂 Seems like everything stupid is made in America!

Have you not watched Russian crazy driver videos?

[Flightrite]

Oh I luv the Ruskies driving vids, the best there is, makes the Aussie dash cam stuff look like a bunch of girls!😂

[APenNameAndThatA]

The setup of the air brakes was really stupid and meant that no one who knew what they were doing was involved, imho. The air brake was close to the centre of mass, which would have made it very unstable.

 

Also, the brake would have shielded the elevator and subjected it to unpredictable, turbulent air. There is no way of predicting the angle of incidence of wind onto the rudder and elevator.

 

Lastly, the ballistic chute opened too late. If the (now former) pilot had gotten into the aircraft and not managed to regain control, and didn’t manage to pull the chute, he would  have been killed.    

[Flightrite]

I see the FAA have jumped these two idiots! Pulled their tickets, a blatant act of stupidity for commercial gain, the FAA had no choice👍

[Garfly]

Yeah, and this mob is next on the hit list ... oh, wait.

 

 

 

Edited May 14, 2022 by Garfly