Small plane missing Victoria 18/09/22

[jackc]

1 minute ago, facthunter said:

Thats just muddying the waters, The last reference is about appealing the Coroners Findings. A state Prosecutor DECIDES IF it goes to Court. I DON"T believe that has happened yet.  Nev

But I would have to say the pressure will be on, public opinion will be part of that. Not to mention the general publicity, amongst the wider community?

[Love to fly]

16 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Thats just muddying the waters, The last reference is about appealing the Coroners Findings. A state Prosecutor DECIDES IF it goes to Court. I DON"T believe that has happened yet.  Nev

Sure. Agree 💯 re referral doesn't mean it will go further. Just responded to your comment re inquiries vs Court. Thought, maybe wrongly, tad pedantic. 

[turboplanner]

26 minutes ago, jackc said:

But I would have to say the pressure will be on, public opinion will be part of that. Not to mention the general publicity, amongst the wider community?

That just relates to what was referred to the DPP regarding the actions of whoever was referred, so a very narrow field, not the wider community. If there's a clain, that's when they can look at you.

[facthunter]

Has your last line become an established fact? Nev

[facthunter]

Wasn't THAT what the Main Concern was all about?   Member's Liability? Nev

[Love to fly]

4 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Wasn't THAT what the Main Concern was all about?   Member's Liability? Nev

Maybe for some. Some questions it may raise for others will RAAUS continue to exist as it does now?  Will an audit raise other governance issues? Should it continue or come back under the casa banner? 

[jackc]

MORE governance will be the beginning of the end 🤢. Think back to the AUF days and the freedom it once had? 
RAAus now want to be the new GA? 

[Love to fly]

3 minutes ago, jackc said:

MORE governance will be the beginning of the end 🤢. Think back to the AUF days and the freedom it once had? 
RAAus now want to be the new GA? 

Not about more governance Perhaps if RAAUS can be shown to have demonstrated good governance ie. following their own standards & procedures then there will be no issues. 

 

And given current RAAUS registered aircraft can be relatively fast and sophisticated and are a long way from the AUF beginnings its hard to find relevance. 

[jackc]

21 minutes ago, Love to fly said:

Not about more governance Perhaps if RAAUS can be shown to have demonstrated good governance ie. following their own standards & procedures then there will be no issues. 

 

And given current RAAUS registered aircraft can be relatively fast and sophisticated and are a long way from the AUF beginnings its hard to find relevance. 

In some cases, RAAus Flying Schools latest aircraft are unsuitable for RPC training, due to increasing complexity, glass instrumentation. 
I did my first 18 hours training in a basic Foxbat, a weekend hire pilot bent it, out of service for months of repairs.  School replaced the Foxbat with a Sting. It was COVID time, as well.

i was told I had to resume training in the new aircraft.

I was in 6 hours credit for lessons, I said it’s too complex for me to fly, I was 72 years old at the time. I was refused a refund. I did my own assessment as to my ability to learn the new aircraft, it was too slick for me, at my age. 
Sadly, that aircraft crashed into the sea, 2 months ago and my 18 hour instructor went with it 🤢 along with right seat instructor with him, both now deceased 🤢WHY? Be no RAAus investigation, on the crash with 2 RAA instructors.

Some of the newer RAAus training aircraft are not suitable, due to their complexity ?

Just like putting L plates, on a Ferrari for drivers licence training. 

[facthunter]

RAAus SAID "WE ARE the NEW GA " Years ago. Predictably that  went down like a LEAD balloon.

  LtF they are still stall speed limited 45 Kts,.. Weight limit  means you build light. Usually 310Kgs Basic Wt.  That's good  without carbon fibre. Nev

[kgwilson]

My all alloy amateur build was supposed to be 313kg but after adding electric flaps, Matco wheels & disk brakes, wing tanks extra instruments & comfort stuff it ended up at 335kg. This still left 265kg which is still 45kgs under for me with full 170 litres of fuel, me & 20kg of baggage. With Pilot & medium weight passenger I am on the limit with 2/3 wing tanks full but everything else. Carbon fibre jockeys should do somewhat better with weight.

[Methusala]

On 16/02/2025 at 12:45 PM, Methusala said:

Be interesting to see response from DPP.

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Edited yesterday at 03:26 AM by Methusala

[Methusala]

22 hours ago, facthunter said:

 Has the DPP made the decision YET?  To Me, that's still to be done.  A referral is just that..  Nev

See my above re-quote