18 Sept 22 - colorado-midair-collision-plane-crash-3-dead

[RFguy]

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/18/1123710321/colorado-midair-collision-plane-crash-3-dead

 

we need a TCAS for light aircraft. having a sky echo  and a tablet is one thing , but having a self contained box listening to ADSB broadcasts , with alarm and some indication of where to look is another.

 

 

 

 

 

[Garfly]

RFguy said

"we need a TCAS for light aircraft. having a sky echo  and a tablet is one thing , but having a self contained box listening to ADSB broadcasts , with alarm and some indication of where to look is another."

 

Yes, the Qld. based AvTraffic app (with some EFB integration) has made a (low cost) start on this idea.

 

https://avtraffic.com/index.html

Edited September 18, 2022 by Garfly

[kiwiaviator]

18 minutes ago, Garfly said:

RFguy said

"we need a TCAS for light aircraft. having a sky echo  and a tablet is one thing , but having a self contained box listening to ADSB broadcasts , with alarm and some indication of where to look is another."

 

Yes, the Qld. based AvTraffic app (with some EFB integration) has made a (low cost) start on this idea.

 

https://avtraffic.com/index.html

I use AvTraffic. It allows me to keep my eyes outside and provides a warning in my headset when a traffic conflict exists. It is reliant on mobile data, pulls in data from its own users, ADS-B Exchange and Open Glider (FLARM) servers that have latency, so not foolproof by any means. Its just another tool in the toolbox.

[RFguy]

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Edited September 18, 2022 by RFguy

[Garfly]

 

Yeah, that's the Cirrus on Metroliner midair near Denver last year, right?

In that case, a simultaneous parallel approach problem. 

 

https://kdvr.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2021/05/Report_CEN21FA215_103073_5_24_2021-3_19_37-PM.pdf

 

 

[RFguy]

I actually pasted the wrong link from the wrong window. , now Iam out, can someone else find it and paste ?

[Garfly]

 

Hi Glen, I haven't turned up the flight path image yet but I came across this from a Colorado based newspaper:

 

"Both aircraft were about 7,000 feet above sea level when the Cessna 172 made a right turn, and the flight paths of the two planes merged. Both aircraft descended rapidly, said Folkerts. The accident sites were not far from where the collision occurred.

Neither aircraft was in contact with an air traffic control, and neither craft was equipped with a collision avoidance system, Folkerts said."

 

Of course, that's probably only a couple of thousand feet AGL at that spot.

 

https://www.coloradohometownweekly.com/2022/09/17/report-three-dead-after-two-planes-crash-in-boulder-county/

 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Garfly

[Thruster88]

I believe ozrunways is working on alerted traffic.

[Agamemnon]

2 hours ago, Thruster88 said:

I believe ozrunways is working on alerted traffic.

AvPlan already has this function, but unless you're running ADSB-in then the data you're getting will be delayed and limited by mobile reception.

[mkennard]

I used to have a Zaon PCAS but was very unreliable.

[kgwilson]

Get a SE2 while you can still get a 50% subsidy. At least you can see every mode S Xponder in your area even if they can't see you & under 5000 ASA radar see bugger all. Also every SE2 operator & any other ADS-B in/out installation can see you & you can see them.

 

Since I have had mine there are aircraft around I never knew were there before but a quick glance is all that is needed to know whether there is any potential conflict. The main thing to remember is not to fly with your head in the cockpit. I wouldn't trust the cellular based systems for reception & latency reasons.

[Garfly]