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PLANE IN POWER LINES BALTIMORE 28/11/22


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another gear up landing. gather the empenage buckled when the front of the airplane stopped.  cant imagine the passengers bodies faired well to the decel.

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7 minutes ago, RFguy said:

another gear up landing. gather the empenage buckled when the front of the airplane stopped.  cant imagine the passengers bodies faired well to the decel.

I thought it may have been a heavy landing by an electric airplane at the charging station.

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That is one amazing crash effort. The elderly pilot and passengers aren't in too good a shape. High tension lines, too - they're darn lucky they didn't get electrocuted, HT current can jump 1.5M gaps.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/us/maryland-plane-crash-power-line.html#:~:text=A small plane crashed into a transmission tower in Maryland,the ground%2C the authorities said.

 

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With high voltage you never get electrocuted.  Electrons repel each other so the current flows over the outside of the skin not through the body as required for electrocution.  It does however create enormous heat and creates extre burns.  HV burns you.

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So if you stay in the cabin the electrons will flow through the skin of the aircraft.  Just don't touch two different parts of the skin as you may get a potential difference through your body and electrocute yourself.

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10 hours ago, RFguy said:

another gear up landing. gather the empenage buckled when the front of the airplane stopped.  cant imagine the passengers bodies faired well to the decel.

Technically they haven't really touched down yet. It's still in the air.😁

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Interesting that the ADSB data doesn't jibe with the actual height that the aircraft collected the powerlines at.  Finger trouble or misheard QNH when resetting to local?  It sounds as though he probably shouldn't have been trying to get in there, given the reported weather; whatever he's used up a lifetime's worth of luck in that little little exercise.

 

As to the Morgan at Old Bar, it was a botched go around from a downwind landing attempt after a prior touch n go.  Aside from the ferriswheel being within the runway splay, there is a further long list of ommissions and errors on the part of the pilot, training organisation and manufacturer, which contributed to to a good old military cluster.

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plugga.....yep, been down that rabbit hole a while back, or one very similar, following an incident. At that time I queried FlightRadar24 as to their altitude data, which was labelled as 'calibrated altitude'. I got no sensible response as to what that was supposed to mean, but I see they have now clarified it some:
"Altitude For each flight tracked on Flightradar24 the calibrated altitude reported from the aircraft, which is a pressure-derived value, is displayed. ( Extended Mode S Data received from some aircraft also includes the GPS-derived altitude of the aircraft.)"

 

If further clarification is required, chase down the spec for ADS-B.

 

As for the incident, if you can run down the atmospheric pressure at the time and place, it's easy to make the correction.

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