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10 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Its like this;

 

I am trying to keep up with all you  LOADED $$$$ BIG BOYS, with very deep pockets, on a fixed income.   Besides that, I get satisfaction from finding the best bang for the buck and passing my finding/experience on, to you lucky devils, in The Forum.😈

Wish I had deep pockets. That's why I fly rag and tube.  Even that is expensive when you add up all the costs. Just payed my raas membership this week.   That along with rego is nearly 600. 50 lts if fuel for a mornings flying is over 100 for avgas and the thousands on training. You have to do the full $10000 training even if you only want to fly around the airfield at 50 knts.  RC models are looking good again. Those new cameras you would think you were in the cockpit anyway.

Rant over.

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I don't have deep pockets but before I started on this flying thing I sold some assets to fund the training and the plane. I don't have a weekly wage, I'm retired without superannuation or a pension but because I built my little piggy bank I'm prepared to spend a few bucks on the things that matter. I will usually look for cheap options but I'm new to this aeronautical stuff so I find myself buying the more expensive option sometimes hoping to stay safe. Tyres and tubes are a good example. I bought Condor, a very expensive option but I imagine trying to control a take-off or landing on a flat tyre might be a little hazardous for a new pilot and some of the areas I might use as airstrips might test a cheaper tyre beyond its intended use. I ordered some parts direct from Evektor Australia hoping to get the right part for the job but that hasn't worked out too well. It's been about three weeks so far and even though all parts were in stock in Czechoslovakia they haven't left yet and I want to get things moving. Perhaps the cheaper locally sourced parts might still be the best option.

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Moneybox,

 

I fitted my last aircraft, an ATEC Zephyr, with small, highway tread trailer tyres (rated, to I think, 120kph), from memory 6 ply,  about the size of a wheelbarrow tyre.  

 

I know you already have the tyres, I am using the above as an example. I never found a substitute for the nose wheel tyre.  I did find an Australian tyre importer, who was a lot cheaper than purchasing the same tyre from the aircraft factory.

 

Do your research and use the abundances of experince/common sense you have developed over a lifetime.  Go OM where safety is critical, the rest can be what you are able to find in Au.

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4 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Moneybox,

 

I fitted my last aircraft, an ATEC Zephyr, with small, highway tread trailer tyres (rated, to I think, 120kph), from memory 6 ply,  about the size of a wheelbarrow tyre.  

 

I know you already have the tyres, I am using the above as an example. I never found a substitute for the nose wheel tyre.  I did find an Australian tyre importer, who was a lot cheaper than purchasing the same tyre from the aircraft factory.

 

Do your research and use the abundances of experince/common sense you have developed over a lifetime.  Go OM where safety is critical, the rest can be what you are able to find in Au.

Yes Skippy I did buy quite a bit locally. I got the tyres from Bush Aero with just $20 delivery to Cue, the hoses from Repco, Mako Services and Run Auto Parts and the carburettor kits and oil filters from Bert Flood and engine oil and ACF50 from the Flight Store but some items I wanted to be sure I got the right parts. I bought the safety wire and pliers from Clear Prop and the Odyssey battery from Goodchild Enterprises.

 

The correct electric fuel pump was important because of the pressure and flow requirements so I bought the mechanical pump from the same place. Next was the 4mm hydraulic pipes for the propeller and brakes, I wanted to be sure the end fittings matched the components. The gas struts for the canopy, I've bought these things aftermarket plenty of times and more often than not the end fittings are wrong so I ordered original. I'm replacing all the external screws for fairing and other bits, I wanted original screws. I know I could have found the landing lights here but like everything else I wanted to get the right ones that just fit. The rubber joystick grips were a total of $8 so I had to buy original ☺️

Because I was already paying freight I tried to buy the Wacker P12 paste there too.

Posted
8 hours ago, Moneybox said:

".......Odyssey battery ......."

All good choices/strategy, perhaps with the exception of the overpriced battery.

I have used motorcycle batteries for years. Found them to be reliable, cost effective and often more CCA's per kg (better starting) than the Odyssey range.SSB is my favorite brand for automotive batteries.

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FullRiver HC20 battery is a good cheap alternative to the odyssey. Have one in the RV and it cranks the 5.9 litre lycoming no problem.

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On 03/11/2024 at 9:30 AM, facthunter said:

TIME is important too..  Nev

Which is why this list can help. Except when it goes off the rails of course 😄

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I just received a quote for the 8 engine mount rubbers from Bert Flood.

 

860695 Shock Mount Set ( $925.90 + GST ( In Stock )

 

Now I've worked out why they call them Shock Mounts 🤣

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What a joke, talk about rort of the century! Just eight cup-shaped rubber pads and eight cupped, pressed washers. They're worth about $200 in total.

See a rubber mount manufacturer, they will more than likely be able to knock them up for you.

There's nothing special about the mountings, they're as simple as they come. Their correct technical name is centre fixing isolators, have a chat to Mackay Industrial (Derwent Industries).

The main thing that needs to be established is the Duro (Durometer measure) grade of the rubber. The Duro governs the rubber hardness/softness and it's important the correct Duro is used for the application. Too soft and the rubber will chew out, too hard and too much vibration is transferred to the frame/fuselage/chassis.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, onetrack said:

What a joke, talk about rort of the century! Just eight cup-shaped rubber pads and eight cupped, pressed washers. They're worth about $200 in total.

See a rubber mount manufacturer, they will more than likely be able to knock them up for you.

There's nothing special about the mountings, they're as simple as they come. Their correct technical name is centre fixing isolators, have a chat to Mackay Industrial (Derwent Industries).

 

 

 

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I guess they are Shock absorber mounts from a particular type of motor vehicle or aftermarket shock absorber. Any suspension specialist should be able to come up with them. I can't see any good reason to replace the cupped washers.

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You also need to be a bit creative with BF.

for example for a 912is the fuel pump upgrade kit with 2 pumps is about $900 whereas a single pump is $1400.

 

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Bert is  not with us anymore.  He used to come to Lethbridge frequently. His Kids rode Bultaco's  in MX, and He was an expert at tuning them. Went to Spain a few times..  Nev

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7 minutes ago, BurnieM said:

You also need to be a bit creative with BF.

for example for a 912is the fuel pump upgrade kit with 2 pumps is about $900 whereas a single pump is $1400.

 

I like to support local suppliers but sometimes they don't do their best to support us. I bought both my pumps from Evektor and even with the import freight I saved a considerable amount of money. I got a tube of Wacker P12 paste thrown in too 😀

 

  • Reduces vibration
  • Accommodates high shock forces
  • Reduces stress on brackets and fabrications
  • Can absorb shock efficiently for millions of cycles
  • Sandwich either side of mounting hole to “float ” the fixing bolt
  • Has strong metal core
  • What’s in the box: 4 X 2 part bushing 
  • Other sizes available on request

Bushings “float ” the mounting bolt

  • Diameter: 33mm
  • Male part flange height:  12.3mm
  • Washer height 12.3mm
  • Mounting hole diameter: 20mm
  • Overall height: 34mm
  • Washer -hole diameter - 14mm
  • Metal core runs the length of the male part

 

I'll need two of these...AU $53.49 each set

 

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12 minutes ago, Moneybox said:

I like to support local suppliers but sometimes they don't do their best to support us. I bought both my pumps from Evektor and even with the import freight I saved a considerable amount of money. I got a tube of Wacker P12 paste thrown in too 😀

 

  • Reduces vibration
  • Accommodates high shock forces
  • Reduces stress on brackets and fabrications
  • Can absorb shock efficiently for millions of cycles
  • Sandwich either side of mounting hole to “float ” the fixing bolt
  • Has strong metal core
  • What’s in the box: 4 X 2 part bushing 
  • Other sizes available on request

Bushings “float ” the mounting bolt

  • Diameter: 33mm
  • Male part flange height:  12.3mm
  • Washer height 12.3mm
  • Mounting hole diameter: 20mm
  • Overall height: 34mm
  • Washer -hole diameter - 14mm
  • Metal core runs the length of the male part

 

I'll need two of these...AU $53.49 each set

 

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Hi Moneybox. I need some of these for a Thruster, were did you find them?

Posted
7 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Keep oil away from rubber.  Nev

 I'd like to think oil wouldn't get to the firewall.

 

1 minute ago, Thruster88 said:

Hi Moneybox. I need some of these for a Thruster, were did you find them?

 

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/282619998576?chn=ps&_ul=AU&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=282619998576&targetid=2370955762951&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9070701&poi=&campaignid=21766114506&mkgroupid=168279963077&rlsatarget=pla-2370955762951&abcId=10047372&merchantid=116482553&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiArva5BhBiEiwA-oTnXT9iMnI5oiIcr9uRKu4dvavDSPITMGcNUW2Yl0hiGLgb7L1i3KFFURoCG0cQAvD_BwE

 

I've not confirmed that these are suitable but they look to be about right. They say other sizes available.

 

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43 minutes ago, Thruster88 said:

Hi Moneybox. I need some of these for a Thruster, were did you find them?

These are the Skyranger ones. 13 pound a set at Flylight Airsport UK.  (Image apart is the ones I replaced on a Skyranger last year.)

 

 

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Some of this has already been covered earlier in the thread.

 

Shock & Vibration Technologies Pty Ltd (SVT)

14/9 Ladbroke Street, Milperra NSW 2214

Phone (02) 97710444

Email [email protected]

https://www.svt.net.au/

 

Mark & David - Great blokes, with a wealth of knowledge & experince, seem genuinely intersted in solving aircraft problems.

They had  the "Hutchinson/ Barry Controls" mounts I wanted  and at at the best price.

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1 hour ago, Blueadventures said:

These are the Skyranger ones. 13 pound a set at Flylight Airsport UK.  (Image apart is the ones I replaced on a Skyranger last year.)

 

 

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Lord Mounts  Part No. CB220113 from Flexible Drive are the same size and used over here; I am told by another Skyranger owner in Australia.  However I purchase from the manufacturer.

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This might do the job to some extent although the E-size is only 20mm inserted into a 30mm hole in the housing?

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6 minutes ago, Moneybox said:

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This might do the job to some extent although the E-size is only 20mm inserted into a 30mm hole in the housing?

Maybe phone flexible Drive and ask if they have same compond grade in your sizing.

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