Crazy aircraft prices

[spacesailor]

Not quite !.

He provided the information to Re- register , the  already registered " 10-1103 " ,

As a 19- xxxx aircraft .

Also VHE XXX ( experimental ) .

No one has found a way to keep it's original category 10 designation. 

IF I put the wing of a " pegasus trike " on the Hummel. It CAN still stay in the 10 category. 

But ! . being SO blooody ugly , I loath to put my name on that register. 

spacesailor

 

 

[Marty_d]

Wouldn't it be better to register as 19 or VH-E than never fly at all?

[Blueadventures]

4 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Wouldn't it be better to register as 19 or VH-E than never fly at all?

Agree, Spacey would be nice to see some images, side on, panel and engine etc.

[rgmwa]

On 31/05/2023 at 3:48 PM, tillmanr said:

An average Vixxen approaches AUD200K.

That is a lot of money for an LSA!

[Blueadventures]

17 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

Just insured my Vixxen for north of $200k.

How much per year?

[johnm]

I'll guess .................. 3 % ................ somewhere between $ 4,500 & $ 6,000  ???

 

probably $ 5,190

[Jerry_Atrick]

Blimey... That insurance is expensive! Is that rate (c. 3%) the same for GA aircraft?

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick

[johnm]

my uneducated guess the 3 % - it was about that when I had aircraft insurance cover

 

I'm also curious how much a $ 200k cover costs ?

[ClintonB]

80k on Cessna was $4500 pa and always went up each year.

so probably more. Unless risk is less.

[pmccarthy]

I guess shopping around will get 1.8- 2.0% for the airframe cover then add $600-800 for third part liability etc.

[Bosi72]

On 03/06/2023 at 3:54 PM, pmccarthy said:

I guess shopping around will get 1.8- 2.0% for the airframe cover then add $600-800 for third part liability etc.

I paid $1140.70 for 3rd party ($3mil liability only) for Cessna.

[waraton]

RAA members market (Aviation Classifieds) is down to 8 aircraft for sale. I've never seen so few.

Edited June 12, 2023 by waraton

[Carbon Canary]

In 2014 there were 116 for sale.  
Any theories, anyone ?

[BrendAn]

2 hours ago, waraton said:

RAA members market (Aviation Classifieds) is down to 8 aircraft for sale. I've never seen so few.

was thinking exactly that yesterday.  last year there were 35 aircraft for sale at one point. are there less for sale or are they selling on facebook and gumtree.

[Blueadventures]

3 minutes ago, Carbon Canary said:

In 2014 there were 116 for sale.  
Any theories, anyone ?

A friend mentioned that RAAus / Sport Pilot adds cost $400- plus. 

 

Same person mentioned Plane Sales was $75-.  He has a current advert posted with Palne Sales.

Edited June 12, 2023 by Blueadventures

[Marty_d]

And Gumtree is free... and whenever someone spots a plane on Gumtree they tell everyone on this site,  win win really!

[johnm]

RAAus / Sport Pilot: https://aviationclassifieds.com.au/

 

nevertheless the above website usually has 30 odd planes for sale - currently only 8 (actual less than that)

 

.................... either:

 

- easy to sell

- hard to keep (if that's true; there'd be more for sale than 😎

 

[old man emu]

11 hours ago, Blueadventures said:

A friend mentioned that RAAus / Sport Pilot adds cost $400- plus. 

I believe that the writing and publication of Sport Pilot is out-sourced to a publishing company on a commercial basis. Therefore, advertising space in the magazine is priced at standard commercial advertising rates. You can't blame people who wish to advertise products or services to seek the lowest rates wherever they can be found. That's one of the reasons that there are so many Buy, Swap & Sell pages on Facebook.

[Carbon Canary]

There’s currently 6 1/2 aircraft for sale on Farcebook - mostly GA.

[Area-51]

1 hour ago, Carbon Canary said:

There’s currently 6 1/2 aircraft for sale on Farcebook - mostly GA.

Which half aircraft is for sale? The left or right half?

[Carbon Canary]

8 minutes ago, Area-51 said:

Which half aircraft is for sale? The left or right half?

Well actually it was the bottom half of a Searey.

 

There are also 2 Lake Buccaneers in bits, wings removed etc for sale as a package deal.

 

A Navajo for $40,000 (Hmmm), a C150, Corby Starlet and a Bowers Fly Baby amongst others.

 

 

[facthunter]

That will be the" Nevago" version.   Nev

[kasper]

On 01/06/2023 at 8:21 PM, spacesailor said:

Not quite !.

He provided the information to Re- register , the  already registered " 10-1103 " ,

As a 19- xxxx aircraft .

Also VHE XXX ( experimental ) .

No one has found a way to keep it's original category 10 designation. 

IF I put the wing of a " pegasus trike " on the Hummel. It CAN still stay in the 10 category. 

But ! . being SO blooody ugly , I loath to put my name on that register. 

spacesailor

 

 

Just to recap:

 

IF it was registered in the 10- before the change to the CAO that introduced the wing load requirement then it can be re-registered in teh 10- category with a grandfathered entitlement (just like my sapphire that does not have to comply with wing load because its been on the register since Adam was a lad)

 

Its a matter of what paperwork was issued by AUF and when as to this being viable.

 

BUT if it was not registered in 10- before the cut off date then it will never be registerable in 10- as it has no way enough wing area ... but it can go 19- any day of the week and the same pilots certificate will then let you fly it.

 

Cheers

[old man emu]

8 minutes ago, kasper said:

but it can go 19- any day of the week and the same pilots certificate will then let you fly it.

Oh No! Spacey's gunna get into the air!

[KRviator]

On 12/06/2023 at 8:38 PM, Blueadventures said:

Same person mentioned Plane Sales was $75-.  He has a current advert posted with Palne Sales.

I think I would personally avoid PlaneSales on principle now. They banned me from viewing their Feacesbook page after I commented on that Bellata Cirrus needing a significant amount of work a few months ago!