Admin Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Many of you know I went to Europe last November on a quest to find the ultimate aircraft to bring to Australia (amongst sourcing new products for Clear Prop). The Millennium Master was the end result however, I was also looking at the MCR range of aircraft that are built in Dijon France. I went through their factory and was very impressed with how much of an aircraft the MCR was. Look here There was a problem at the time with the representation of the MCR in Australia - a New Zealand person had the rights to the East Coast so I was offered the rights to the rest of Australia. It was evident to me that this would be a messy arrangement and whilst I could offer the MCR throughout Australia by means of opening a post office box in South Australia for people on the East Coast, I felt it wasn't the right thing to do so I just focused on the Millennium Master which was a cleaner agreement. Dyn Aero have now come back to me and advised that they would now like to offer me the MCR rights for all of Australia. The MCR Club for example would sell for about $130k (Euro exchange rate dependent) and what's more they have a very nice Rotax powered 4 seater (http://www.dynaero.com/lien/indexuk.htm) which would make an ideal new cheap GA trainer and then can be used for touring. I am not sure whether to add the MCR range to the Millennium Master or not - the Master is a kit and the MCR is fly away - any comments?
skybum Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 ARGHHH bugga! when that kiwi got the franchise I had all but given up on the MCR. The deal apeared if you wanted to kit build you had to go to Dijon to form up the wings on their jigs. Hp for hp the MCR is/was the hardest to beat for certified genuine actual cruise speeds behind a 912. I am awaiting the master to see if it can knock off the Gallic greyhound. There is one already flying over in Perth on VH reg (VH-SIP) and fairly hauls A! Ian, why did you have to make my choice harder?:hittinghead:
Admin Posted April 27, 2008 Author Posted April 27, 2008 The main differences between the two are: 1. The Master is faster, kit, carbon fibre and tandem seating 2. The MCR is slower, factory built, metal and side by side seating The other advantage of the MCR is that it can come in a purpose built trailer as the MCR wings can easily be removed by one person, trailored and then the wings refitted for flying. There is a video of it on their website. The Master will be my own prime aircraft but the MCR I think will serve a slightly different market especially the side by side seating plus the 4 seater variant - all I need now is a good high wing aircraft and a Trike to complete the hangar ;)
Guest disperse Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 have you got a kit price on the club ? I beleive it has to be the fast build, due to the jig's needed
skybum Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Ian, do not be fooled by the alloy skins on the wings. The original Ban-Bi was all metal. The latest MCRs are carbon fibre with Alloy wing skins glued over fibre set in a jig (much like the old grumman AA5s). Talked to the owner of SIP she slips along at around 150kts. Extraordinary range. Just could not get an answer out of anyone on how much a kit would cost.
Ultralights Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 they are built using the same technique as the Cri Cri, as they are designed by th same person, Micheal Colomban. aluminum skins bonded to composite ribs, frames and longerons.
eastmeg2 Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 all I need now is a good high wing aircraft and a Trike to complete the hangar ;) Ian, Might I point out that a trike is a good high wing aircraft . . .;)
Downunder Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 My comment would be that the Aussie dollar to the euro is so so, where as against the US dollar there is a real oportunity for a good aircraft at a very good price. I don't know if you've looked in that direction at all? Regards, R J Mitchell
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