BrendAn Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/reel/1387275385377595/?s=single_unit&__cft__[0]=AZWTCr-IBDQl3Uqv2BcX3bZkKZOUR9diNRypqcJG1nnIMo2S6f0zyKlS6jmOM79QSH3VoJ79iDG3TMyclsk66hCvMXJJ1HCFeQXcr957f8NMoAFE1CAIIDcUMIJ6ZD68CTZNBvzCiIQs92LbkWR6bXmpm8HIs2-Ul422LaaLS5295moKRfHEyKcoI4XJwI1sUcxFSaSWyKVgRaI0lTfmtezUFk6Je8burf9oCeNHkE8OTg&__tn__=H-R 2
planedriver Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Scarey stuff! Had a Pitts do that to me many years ago in western Sydney. No radio calls, and just came out of nowhere, though not quite as close as that. Something you don't forget easily. 1
BrendAn Posted April 16, 2023 Author Posted April 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, planedriver said: Scarey stuff! Had a Pitts do that to me many years ago in western Sydney. No radio calls, and just came out of nowhere, though not quite as close as that. Something you don't forget easily. it must be terrifying, i hope i never find out for myself.
Area-51 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Last most recent flight... busy day, lots of training flights entering the frequency area... One aircraft calling rolling 05 departing, visual of departing aircraft confirmed; frequent airfield op's of individual departing aircraft; flying neighbourly. Call "xyz joining downwind 23 full stop"; field and area visual, clear. Foreign aircraft responds; "entering back tracking 05". Flying downwind, visual the field, no aircraft sighted entering and backtracking 05... respond "xyz to xyz, confirm last transmitted position"... no response... Situational awareness raised to alert level... no aircraft sighted at transmitted position... continue flying downwind leg for 23. Late downwind, foreign aircraft transmits, "backtracking 05"... visual field again, no aircraft sighted; look for possible powered parachute on field, no aircraft visual at transmitted position... Situational awareness raised to High Alert, visual circuit airspace, no aircraft sighted. Call "xyz base 23 full stop" status high alert... "xyz to xyz, please confirm present position", still no response... Extreme alert, prepared to bank hard right full power if required. Call "xyz final 23 full stop"... "foreign aircraft responds "xyz to xyz, we will hold to the side of 05 for you"... "xyz to xyz, thank you appreciated"... still no visual of foreign aircraft at transmitted position. Call "xyz late final 23 full stop", then spot foreign aircraft, cessna semonile twin, 50 metres off port side 11 o'clock at 500' AGL flying dead side of 05... (i.e 50 metres off port side flying opposite direction at same altitude while on late final for 23). WTF???? Requested debrief from command pilot of departing aircraft for confirmation of event... not an isolated event situation. Shared the story with club CFI... Club CFI personally contacts owner/instructor of seminole for incident discussion... Seminole owner/instructor response "he (me) never made any calls". CFI's response, "that's impossible". Seminole "why?" CFI's response "because he's (me) anal retentive, and he always makes calls"... Somebody screwed up, and it wasn't me... Somebody will eventually die.. hopefully it won't involve me... Nothing further to add...
BrendAn Posted April 17, 2023 Author Posted April 17, 2023 14 hours ago, Area-51 said: Last most recent flight... busy day, lots of training flights entering the frequency area... One aircraft calling rolling 05 departing, visual of departing aircraft confirmed; frequent airfield op's of individual departing aircraft; flying neighbourly. Call "xyz joining downwind 23 full stop"; field and area visual, clear. Foreign aircraft responds; "entering back tracking 05". Flying downwind, visual the field, no aircraft sighted entering and backtracking 05... respond "xyz to xyz, confirm last transmitted position"... no response... Situational awareness raised to alert level... no aircraft sighted at transmitted position... continue flying downwind leg for 23. Late downwind, foreign aircraft transmits, "backtracking 05"... visual field again, no aircraft sighted; look for possible powered parachute on field, no aircraft visual at transmitted position... Situational awareness raised to High Alert, visual circuit airspace, no aircraft sighted. Call "xyz base 23 full stop" status high alert... "xyz to xyz, please confirm present position", still no response... Extreme alert, prepared to bank hard right full power if required. Call "xyz final 23 full stop"... "foreign aircraft responds "xyz to xyz, we will hold to the side of 05 for you"... "xyz to xyz, thank you appreciated"... still no visual of foreign aircraft at transmitted position. Call "xyz late final 23 full stop", then spot foreign aircraft, cessna semonile twin, 50 metres off port side 11 o'clock at 500' AGL flying dead side of 05... (i.e 50 metres off port side flying opposite direction at same altitude while on late final for 23). WTF???? Requested debrief from command pilot of departing aircraft for confirmation of event... not an isolated event situation. Shared the story with club CFI... Club CFI personally contacts owner/instructor of seminole for incident discussion... Seminole owner/instructor response "he (me) never made any calls". CFI's response, "that's impossible". Seminole "why?" CFI's response "because he's (me) anal retentive, and he always makes calls"... Somebody screwed up, and it wasn't me... Somebody will eventually die.. hopefully it won't involve me... Nothing further to add... That's too close for comfort
Area-51 Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, BrendAn said: That's too close for comfort Tell me about it... take away was, "learnt something new", received some valuable feedback from military trained influences and mentors. Outcome, planned "operational information circular" to be distributed to all surrounding out of area flight training providers. Edited April 18, 2023 by Area-51 1
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