Jet landing

[BrendAn]

[BrendAn]

Would have been good to watch

[old man emu]

I hope that the RFDS registered the aircraft as a motor vehicle, and that the pilot held the appropriate class of licence and a public passenger vehicle driver's authority.

 

Ask a seaplane operator about putting a plane on the water.

[onetrack]

"SAPOL" protocols means the section of the Stuart Hwy being used as the airstrip was closed to traffic for the duration of aircraft use, and it was officially no longer a public road or highway while it was closed.

 

I'd expect any crosswinds would be a concern in this case - even with a widened highway pavement area, it's still a narrow target to land on, as compared to a normal airstrip.

 

I couldn't imagine too many emergency circumstances where they'd need to land the Pilatus jet to pick up casualties - unless it was a major bus accident.

 

But bus travel is nothing like it used to be, you're struggling to find a viable long-distance bus service today. Greyhound is only a shadow of what they used to be.

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

it was officially no longer a public road

It was a joke, Joyce.

[facthunter]

It's not a Qantas plane. Anyhow jets take longer than a turbo prop to get airborne at a higher speed and Foreign object damage would be more likely.  Nev

[spacesailor]

" Foreign objects " 

You mean , like those Japanese cyclists  !.

spacesailor

[RossK]

On 29/04/2023 at 11:28 AM, facthunter said:

It's not a Qantas plane. Anyhow jets take longer than a turbo prop to get airborne at a higher speed and Foreign object damage would be more likely.  Nev

Pilatus don't seem to be too concerned with FOD in this you tube clip.

PC-24 at The Vale, Tasmania.

[facthunter]

IMMACULATE grass strip of quite adequate width is another matter. Your biggest issue there is how will the surface carry the  Load of the wheels. PDF is pavement depth factor. Getting off a paved  strip of known strength is always a risk and no doubt this strip was extensively checked first. These stages demos don't sell to most "with it" purchasers as they are well aware of the risks of operating on unknown HARDNESS surfaces. The plane is most likely near empty and it's a cool day. Everything would be optimum for the ADVERT to  run.to best advantage.  Bit of a stunt really and I'm surprised Pilatus went there. Nev

[RossK]

Yes, going there was good markerting for Pilatus, but the PC-24 is designed to operate from grass & unimproved strips.

So not really a stunt, just a demonstration of it's capability. Landing on 2km of the Sturt Hwy would have been a doddle for the crew.

Most "with it" purcahsers looking for an off airport transporter are going to have Pilatus on their list. Pilatus just want to upsell them from the PC-12 to the PC-24 😁

 

[facthunter]

The issues with grass strips can't be wished away like you have to watch soft edges with a truck or even doing a U turn where you run a bit wide with the car. People who run off the taxiway edges with a plane usually end up in strife by going through the surface where it's not compacted. It's hard enough out landing in small planes. You'd want very detailed information of it's ability to carry the weight and soft surfaces create a lot of drag when taking off .Nev

[BrendAn]

7 hours ago, RossK said:

Pilatus don't seem to be too concerned with FOD in this you tube clip.

PC-24 at The Vale, Tasmania.

 the engines should be fairly well protected by the wings from anything the wheels flick up.

i read a comment that the rfds were involved in its design . 

11.6 million u.s is a pretty hefty price tag .

[RossK]

17 hours ago, facthunter said:

The issues with grass strips can't be wished away like you have to watch soft edges with a truck or even doing a U turn where you run a bit wide with the car. People who run off the taxiway edges with a plane usually end up in strife by going through the surface where it's not compacted. It's hard enough out landing in small planes. You'd want very detailed information of it's ability to carry the weight and soft surfaces create a lot of drag when taking off .Nev

And you think Pilatus haven't thought of this before marketing as suitable for unimproved strips??

[facthunter]

If someone comes to grief it will be the operator/pilot held responsible, that's for sure because that's the LAW.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

On 2/5/2023 at 6:08 PM, BrendAn said:

 the engines should be fairly well protected by the wings from anything the wheels flick up…

This Cessna landed on a local grass strip without issues:

 

[facthunter]

What's the AUW? Above 6000kgs on those 2 mainwheel predominantly and also what is the effect of grass surface on BRAKING. Grass can be next to useless in that respect. How do you effectively calculate landing distance required and accelerate stop distances?  (even if you don't sink through the surface somewhere). .   Nev