Dropped iPad jams peddles

[danny_galaga]

A reminder about being aware of what your loose items could do

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/verticalmag.com/news/dropped-ipad-implicated-in-fatal-chinook-helicopter-crash/%3famp

 

[IBob]

Link not working, Danny.

[Neil_S]

Hmmm - works OK for me....

[IBob]

Curious............

[onetrack]

Link works O.K. for me. IBob, I'd say your AV is too sensitive and is blocking the site, seeing some code that it interprets as a virus or malware. Try turning off your AV, then click on Dannys link.

[Rotorwork]

Do you mean PEDALS ?

[pmccarthy]

Only if you are a PEDANT.

[danny_galaga]

So no one is interested in the actual story? 

[IBob]

I still can't see it.......(

[onetrack]

There are numerous crash reports involving dropped objects jamming control mechanisms. I can remember coins and small tools featuring in some crashes, and one major crash was caused by a 5 yr old standing up to see his house during a joyride, his foot jammed in a control linkage, the pilot couldn't assess the problem in time, and the aircraft crashed, killing all on board.

[2tonne]

Prior to a training flight in a J160, as a very new student, I noticed the locking pin for the adjustable rudder pedals was missing on my side. I didn't think much of it, but told my instructor. He said we weren't moving anywhere until it was located, due to the risk of it lodging into controls during flight. Took a couple of minutes to find itn on the floor, but then it was put back in place and we were on our way. 

[turboplanner]

8 minutes ago, 2tonne said:

Prior to a training flight in a J160, as a very new student, I noticed the locking pin for the adjustable rudder pedals was missing on my side. I didn't think much of it, but told my instructor. He said we weren't moving anywhere until it was located, due to the risk of it lodging into controls during flight. Took a couple of minutes to find itn on the floor, but then it was put back in place and we were on our way. 

Very good example of a Go/No Go safety decision process.

[BrendAn]

On 31/07/2023 at 11:03 AM, danny_galaga said:

A reminder about being aware of what your loose items could do

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/verticalmag.com/news/dropped-ipad-implicated-in-fatal-chinook-helicopter-crash/%3famp

 

terrible accident. an r22 pilot once told me he wrote off his chopper at the kununurra airport when a foam esky jammed his controls.

Edited August 1, 2023 by BrendAn

[facthunter]

I reported a safety pin missing from one of the Cargo door locks on a DC-4 at Launceston. The check captain I was with called out an engineer in the middle of the night to make one and then without my Knowledge put in  report saying I didn't show initiative (without saying WHY). Some Pilots are $#!t IF I'd said "why worry there's 3 out of 4 there, Let's GO", I could justifiably have been terminated. I made the ONLY RIGHT decision. Nev

[BrendAn]

3 minutes ago, facthunter said:

I reported a safety pin missing from one of the Cargo door locks on a DC-4 at Launceston. The check captain I was with called out an engineer in the middle of the night to make one and then without my Knowledge put in  report saying I didn't show initiative (without saying WHY). Some Pilots are $#!t IF I'd said "why worry there's 3 out of 4 there, Let's GO", I could justifiably have been terminated. I made the ONLY RIGHT decision. Nev

off topic but reading this makes me think you had some amazing experiences flying some iconic aircraft. its all computers now i imagine'

[facthunter]

I thought it was attention to detail and checking what should be important to FLY safely. and HOW one prominent and least expected person would surprisingly lack it.  One of my favourite instructors and a personal friend Ken May spun a DHC-1 In due to a penny lodged in the controls that HE had nothing to do with and couldn't have been expected to find. You shouldn't have objects in your pockets IF you are in an open Pusher either. Why? It could sever a prop blade and  cut of the tail Boom. .

  Yes Brendan It was a period we will never know again where Planes had far more hazards than they do now but the Human is still a weak link. .Nev

[Old Koreelah]

Nev we’re still waiting for your book…

[facthunter]

Somehow I got more excitement than normal but I  wasn't looking for it and won't be writing about it. I really have too much to  do. I once read" Fate is the Hunter" and I can assure you that the bit about icing is correct. Those deicing boots do not work.  Nev

[Old Koreelah]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

Somehow I got more excitement than normal but I  wasn't looking for it and won't be writing about it. I really have too much to  do…

Nev I’ve had a similar response from my brother; both of you have lots of stuff the rest of us would live to read about. 
Perhaps you carry around a Dictaphone?

[facthunter]

Yeah I remember someone saying DICTAPHONE somewhere or other.

  Being a bit more serious some of our PNG pilots have some Strange stories and True to tell of.  I've got a lot from some WW2 pilots from New Zealand where  they've recounted ways in a very CANDID manner of regaining control of some aircraft that I've been able to confirm in my own experience. These first hand things are so much better than U tube or anything else available.. Very few Pilots want to talk of their experiences at all  and many of them had very few hours up even when the war was over. They were chucked in with the absolute minimum of training to really learn on the JOB. I've flown with quite a few of them. My best Instructor was in Changi and  looked iike a skeleton in one of the Pictures of that Place. His Faith in me to do the job was essential to me being able to feel I should continue.  Nev