Mid-air collision over Port Phillip Bay 19/11/2023

[onetrack]

There's plenty of camera footage available, it was all recorded and all recovered. The Roulettes and other aerobatic teams go out with a strictly rehearsed plan of aircraft movements, and there can be no distractions when you're bringing aircraft very close together at considerable speed.

The problem here was an undisciplined approach to some of the most dangerous flying you can ever indulge in, and an unrehearsed plan of aircraft movements. The ATSB graphics illustrate pretty clearly what happened - wingtips touched because the concentration was on "great camera footage", and not rigid flying discipline, with carefully preplanned, and carefully rehearsed aircraft movements.

It's only sheer good luck there wasn't a quadruple number of fatalities, and two aircraft lost, in the one mid-air crash.

[Student Pilot]

It's hardly a mystery what happened. Got too close, misjudged. Hold my beer and watch this.......

[Roundsounds]

On 18/1/2024 at 10:20 AM, onetrack said:

There's plenty of camera footage available, it was all recorded and all recovered. The Roulettes and other aerobatic teams go out with a strictly rehearsed plan of aircraft movements, and there can be no distractions when you're bringing aircraft very close together at considerable speed.

The problem here was an undisciplined approach to some of the most dangerous flying you can ever indulge in, and an unrehearsed plan of aircraft movements. The ATSB graphics illustrate pretty clearly what happened - wingtips touched because the concentration was on "great camera footage", and not rigid flying discipline, with carefully preplanned, and carefully rehearsed aircraft movements.

It's only sheer good luck there wasn't a quadruple number of fatalities, and two aircraft lost, in the one mid-air crash.

Are you sure none of the operating crew had appropriate experience? Even the best of professional teams come together on occasions. 

[onetrack]

I said nothing about "none of the operating crew had appropriate experience". It's obvious they were experienced. But what was lacking was disciplined planning, and a proper rehearsal of the interactions between the aircraft before they went out.

[facthunter]

I'm inclined to believe the bulky camera and the desire to make good Images was a big part of this.  Nev

[Garfly]

 

 

Final Report video from ATSB:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcoUR3XUuTs

 

[facthunter]

Proper preparation Practice and Planning. Beats finding out the hard way. No room for error.. I had a bloke do a barrel roll around me Unannounced and as close as that was.  Nev

[turboplanner]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Proper preparation Practice and Planning. Beats finding out the hard way. No room for error.. I had a bloke do a barrel roll around me Unannounced and as close as that was.  Nev

Sorry.

[onetrack]

"Left wing" and "Right wing" in the text and crash description? Whatever happened to "Port wing" and "Starboard wing"?

[facthunter]

Must have been politicised.  Nev

[Garfly]