AOPA - response re Class 5 self declared medical declaration

[Bill]

https://www.facebook.com/AOPAaustralia/videos/aopa-australia-submits-response-to-class-5-self-declaration-medical-reformaopa-a/882055526767788/

[turboplanner]

That link is to Ben Morgan giving us his opinion.

Was the AOPA submission a collection of Members' submissions, or was it just a submission by AOPA itself?

 

[Blueadventures]

31 minutes ago, turboplanner said:

That link is to Ben Morgan giving us his opinion.

Was the AOPA submission a collection of Members' submissions, or was it just a submission by AOPA itself?

 

I take it that that is the reply on behalf of members and that individual members may have the same, slightly different or vastly different opinions.  Ben does a very good job with his comments and gives opinion and his knowledge of evidence in chunks so it can be further commented on if needed.  And considering his recent accident I believe people must give him greater credit for his effort and thank the team that are with him.  

[facthunter]

AOPA aus is the only independent voice ordinary pilots have in Australia. Ben speaks as President and the members decide who the president is by an approved and visible Election process from time to time. Nothing unusual about that.. I was a member for years.   Nev

[turboplanner]

2 hours ago, Blueadventures said:

I take it that that is the reply on behalf of members and that individual members may have the same, slightly different or vastly different opinions.  Ben does a very good job with his comments and gives opinion and his knowledge of evidence in chunks so it can be further commented on if needed.  And considering his recent accident I believe people must give him greater credit for his effort and thank the team that are with him.  

I raised the question because Australian Flying 23 June 2023 had a story "AOPA CEO leaves Medicals Working Group".

[facthunter]

The comments are near all favourable to Ben Morgan.   Nev

[kgwilson]

I opened the video and saw it was an hour long and closed it again.

[facthunter]

I don't do facebook.  Nev

[turboplanner]

46 minutes ago, facthunter said:

I don't do facebook.  Nev

Yes, it's a bit hard to follow.

[walrus]

Agree 100% with Ben and AOPA.  The CASA proposal, as always, is redolent with weasel words and qualifications that destroy any idea of reform. The application of the criminal code doesn't help either.

 

 

[Thruster88]

I wonder which section of "the working group" proposed the one passenger limit for class 5 medical.  

[coljones]

22 hours ago, facthunter said:

I don't do facebook.  Nev

Life is too very, very short to waste time searching fæcebook for AOPA stuff.  It would be far better if AOPA used text and images rather than 2 hours of video.  It would also help if they used email rather than fæcebook.

[pmccarthy]

Yes they need to learn to communicate in writing. I would like to know what AOPA is doing, I am a member, but I will not watch videos. They are just lazy communications.

[facthunter]

If you are a member let them know your views if you're not happy.  Obviously "something" is better than NO thing.   Nev

[BurnieM]

Seems to me that class 5 is all about removing objections to RPC having controlled aerodrome/airspace endorsements

so CASA would probably be forced to make it more leinent than they want to.

 

I expect a PPL with class 5 will be;

VFR only

10,000 ft only

1 passenger

pretty much the same as a RPC with self declared medical.

 

PS

I also expect RPC controlled endorsements to happen reasonably quickly due to pressure from YWSI restrictions if it does not.

 

PPS
Sort of makes you wonder what will happen in the near future if RPC and PPL (class 5) effectively become the same.

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by BurnieM

[turboplanner]

48 minutes ago, BurnieM said:

Seems to me that class 5 is all about removing objections to RPC having controlled aerodrome/airspace endorsements

so CASA would probably be forced to make it more leinent than they want to.

 

I expect a PPL with class 5 will be;

VFR only

10,000 ft only

1 passenger

pretty much the same as a RPC with self declared medical.

 

PS

I also expect RPC controlled endorsements to happen reasonably quickly due to pressure from YWSI restrictions if it does not.

 

PPS
Sort of makes you wonder what will happen in the near future if RPC and PPL (class 5) effectively become the same.

 

Think how a Self Declared Medical will work in the flying environment. The legal onus shifts to ........

[BurnieM]

?

 

The same as it does for RPC.

The same as it does in the UK for PPL.

The same as it does in the US for SportsPilot.

 

Worldwide CASA type authorities have always shat on the pilot first, second .....

 

[kgwilson]

There is only one authority in the world like CASA & that's CASA.

[turboplanner]

24 minutes ago, BurnieM said:

?

 

The same as it does for RPC.

The same as it does in the UK for PPL.

The same as it does in the US for SportsPilot.

 

Worldwide CASA type authorities have always shat on the pilot first, second .....

 

You assume the legal obligation to report any impediment to flying and the consequences of that report.

Personally I'd rather have the security of a Dame making that decision.

The problem comes if you have a blackout due to that diabetes you just forgot to declare etc. resulting in an accident.

[coljones]

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

"PS

I also expect RPC controlled endorsements to happen reasonably quickly due to pressure from YWSI restrictions if it does not."

YWSI? = Young Women's Summer Institute?

[facthunter]

"Some" aerodrome maybe.?  Nev

[coljones]

55 minutes ago, kgwilson said:

There is only one authority in the world like CASA & that's CASA.

If you want to measure incompetence you can't really go past ACCC, ACMA or ASIC - actually they are as bad as all the other QANGOs and departments.

[onetrack]

WSI is the IATA code for the new Western Sydney Airport. There is no ICAO code for WSI at this point in time.

[coljones]

31 minutes ago, onetrack said:

WSI is the IATA code for the new Western Sydney Airport. There is no ICAO code for WSI at this point in time.

Wirrida Siding Airport - YWSI

[Carbon Canary]

The need for CTA access is possibly more urgent at Ballina if it becomes a Class D.