Archerfield storm damage 15/12/2023

[FlyingVizsla]

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South-east Queensland was rocked by a severe storm last night, with winds felt in Brisbane's south akin to that of a category three cyclone.

 

[turboplanner]

It seems tying down your own aircraft is not enough these days.

[Kiwi]

1 hour ago, turboplanner said:

It seems tying down your own aircraft is not enough these days.

Cable snapped.

[turboplanner]

1 hour ago, turboplanner said:

It seems tying down your own aircraft is not enough these days.

My mistake. Channel 9 footage tonight shows the top aircraft from the other side with a tie down chain still firmly attached to a wing and the ground cable ripped out. Wind speed was 169 km/hr.

[turboplanner]

1 minute ago, Kiwi said:

Cable snapped.

Yes, just saw it on Channel 9 news.

 

[facthunter]

Higher windspeeds than  were registered with the cyclone to the North near Cairns. You'd never anticipate that.   Nev

[derekliston]

I remember when I worked there, watching an afternoon storm come through and the AN2 that was chained down ouside Ian Aviation’s hangar was actually flying on its chains!

[KRviator]

1 hour ago, Kiwi said:

Cable snapped.

That ain't gonna be a cheap fix. And their insurer's gonna have fun with that assigning liability to the airport for failing to ensure the tiedowns were adequately maintained!

[Jerry_Atrick]

Is the airfield liable for the cables? The two airfields I have had parking at provided the tiedown points/blocks, but it was up toi us to provide the cables..

[Litespeed]

Those two small Cessna's look like they had a wild party, got on the sauce and drugs and woke up bruised and in a compromising position.

 

How else do aircraft breed? 

[derekliston]

Archerfield seems to be susceptible to storms like that! Sorry if this is thread drift but bear with me! A lot of years ago I broke a Skyfox. I thought I had put the pin through the spar after unfolding the wings, but in fact on the left wing I had missed the hole. I pushed down on the tail to swing the aeroplane around and the wing then swung back and not only nearly broke my arm, but broke one of the aileron hangers. I had to drive to Caloundra to get the repair kit and then spent the best part of a week repairing it. It was then put back on the flightline where the owner kept it, because according to Skyfox, although it was fabric it could be safely tied down outdoors! Absolute bullshit! A week or so later Archerfield was hit by a storm and the aeroplane not only had so many holes in it that you would think it had been machine-gunned but was tipped upside down, despite being tied down, it was virtually destroyed! Really don’t know what happened to it after that?

[KRviator]

11 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Is the airfield liable for the cables? The two airfields I have had parking at provided the tiedown points/blocks, but it was up toi us to provide the cables..

The cable that's snapped looks to be part of the airport infrastructure, I can't imagine it being a users responsibility to provide the heavy steel cable that let go. Certainly though, it's the aircraft owners responsibility to provide the tackle to lash the aircraft to that heavy steel cable.

[derekliston]

That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs?

[FlyBoy1960]

18 minutes ago, derekliston said:

That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs?

some airports now won't let you use ground screws because it damages the surface and if they are not removed they interfere with lawnmowers and are too much of a liability for the operator.  Somebody might even stump their toe on one and sue the council. 

 

When I travel I take self-inflating concrete blocks, they look really heavy !

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/BUNKR-Build-Your-Own-Battlezone-Inflatable-Concrete-Block-for-Blaster-Battles/181932666

[turboplanner]

23 minutes ago, derekliston said:

That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs?

Chyeck whether the insurance excludes an "act of God"

[Litespeed]

No such thing as a act of God.

 

Just bullshit to take payments and never payout.

[facthunter]

The entity that caused the damage should foot the Bill. 

 

 

 What would Insurance Companies know about god ? Nev

Edited December 17, 2023 by facthunter

[turboplanner]

I'm sure the comedians will find some applause somewhere, but a serious question was asked.

[spacesailor]

Not to worry ! .

With their insurance payout .

They can buy a ...

1941 TigreMoth rego number A17-626 for $ 82,000.

Spotted on faceb today

spacesailor

[facthunter]

And do you reckon "ACT of God" should be a serious concept when you are paying for "loss and Damage" cover?  Nev

[turboplanner]

25 minutes ago, facthunter said:

And do you reckon "ACT of God" should be a serious concept when you are paying for "loss and Damage" cover?  Nev

It is a formal Insurance term.

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by turboplanner

[facthunter]

That can't be discussed? You didn't answer my question either. You always end up saying "read what's on the form" That doesn't provide any  SOLUTION to the problem. ACT of God.!!  Are we in the dark ages?   Nev

[turboplanner]

As I explained, act of God is a formal insurance term; the person I was addressing has the chance to get an answer to his question.

[derekliston]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

And do you reckon "ACT of God" should be a serious concept when you are paying for "loss and Damage" cover?  Nev

Reminds me of Billy Connolly’s movie. The Man who sued God!

[turboplanner]

22 hours ago, derekliston said:

That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs?

I took this question seriously.

 

If you were serious, here's a legal explanation of Act of God.

https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/commercial-law/national/tort-law/acts-of-god

 

You then have to look at the parking contract.