flying dog Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Yeah, ok, sorry it is kinda off topic. I'm wanting a list of words to describe something going from 100% working to unable to be used/fixed. Not 100 levels, but also not 2. And all in the same discipline. Say 10 levels? eg: Working needing service working at reduced capacity failed / repairable failed / not repairable Ok, maybe not 10. I just chose that as a nominal value. But if you get what I mean. Thanks in advance.
pluessy Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 would be helpful to know in what context/industry/equipment. There are many variations across a large range of industries and equipment to describe these events.
flying dog Posted December 18, 2023 Author Posted December 18, 2023 To be honest, I don't know. I'm just wanting to start building an understanding of the layers from good to bad for a machine/device. I get it that there are different terms used in different industries. But as I don't really understand the bigger placement myself, it makes it hard for me to say. Maybe if people could give me their lists with a qualifying industry/context/equipment at the top so I see the flavor of the list. Sorry if that doesn't answer your question. Alas it is the best I can do for now.
spacesailor Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 1 . Read about an aircraft . 2 . Obtain details of interesting aircraft. 3 . See said aircraft flying in Australia 4 . Confirm aircraft is buildable. 5 . Confirm aircraft is registrable. 6 . Spend money on plans . 7 . Spend more money on parts , of unfinished aircraft. 8 . Build final aircraft . 8 . Start flying lessons. 9 . Register your aircraft. " 95-10-1103 " . 10 . Change from " AUF " TO " RAA " . 11 . RAA Deregister's your aircraft . 12 . Never fly . spacesailor
flying dog Posted December 18, 2023 Author Posted December 18, 2023 Yeah, ok, but I am not seeing how that relates to going from WORKING (fully) to THROW IT AWAY (Not worth fixing) But kinda cute/interesting.
spacesailor Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 IT & OTHERS Were ' registered flying " HummBirds " . Just a " Bureaucratic " wave of a pen , To remove a certain ' aircraft ". Those with ' time ' in service were " grandfathered " . Those registered aircraft , without time, will have to be reconfigured for a different category. Or used for display purposes. One out of 18 builders, I know of , one reregistered . spacesailor
FlyingVizsla Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 You want a list like:- Excellent / new condition Serviceable Worn, useable Some defects/snags, mostly operable Peripheral functions operable, main function inoperable Inoperable but repairable Irrepairable, scrap ? If so, we can work on this. 1 1
flying dog Posted December 18, 2023 Author Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FlyingVizsla said: Peripheral functions operable, main function inoperable That's the only ... bump. My vocabulary skills are not good. Is there a word which would convey that, or a more succinct way of saying that? (with me just using the word succinct) Sorry. Defect? Oh, sorry, that was from the line above that one. Barely operable? Edited December 18, 2023 by flying dog
FlyingVizsla Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Excellent Serviceable Minor defects Major defect Inoperable but repairable Irrepairable 1
FlyingVizsla Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 If you consider a car Excellent - brand new Serviceable - some wear on tyres, oil filter near changing etc Minor defects - window winder dead, battery flat, upholstery torn Major defect - engine unreliable Inoperable but repairable - needs new engine, lights, tyres Irrepairable - uneconomical to repair, or parts not available, destined for the scrap yard There will be other states in between Excellent and Irrepairable depending on what it is and if there are things like air/road-worthy
FlyingVizsla Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Found this list - you can pick the terms that best suit. Excellent: Like New Pristine Immaculate Optimal Perfect Very Good: Well-maintained Excellent Condition Minimal Wear Near Mint High Performance Good: Good Condition Regularly Maintained Moderate Wear Reliable Fully Operational Fair: Fair Condition Some Wear Functional Usable Adequate Performance Poor: Poor Condition Signs of Wear Requires Attention Operational with Limitations Below Average Performance Needs Repair: Needs Repairs Defective Not Fully Functional Requires Maintenance Subpar Performance Non-Operational: Non-Operational Out of Order Inoperative Requires Major Repairs Not Functional Scrap: Scrap Condition Salvage Only Beyond Repair Unusable Condemned 1 1 1
flying dog Posted December 18, 2023 Author Posted December 18, 2023 Oooh! Thanks. That will definitely give me some food for thought.
johnm Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 suffering from a mild technical anomaly - after critical analysis using complimentary spanners and hammers .......... it has been decided to file the project in the big square bin out back 1
turboplanner Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Tire Wear 1. New 2. 80% 3. 60% 4. 40% 5. 20% 6. 5% Replace
onetrack Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 "Tire" wear? Only in America, we have tyres here. 1
turboplanner Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, onetrack said: "Tire" wear? Only in America, we have tyres here. Must have been asleep at the wheel when I wrote that. 2
planedriver Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, turboplanner said: 8 hours ago, onetrack said: "Tire" wear? Only in America, we have tyres here. . 5 hours ago, turboplanner said: Must have been asleep at the wheel when I wrote that. Or, relating to imported tires
facthunter Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 You can Write "OFF the CAR" is you are asleep at the wheel.. Nev
onetrack Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 A grading for operational condition must be specifically related to the subject. You cannot have a universal grading system because it doesn't cover specific applicable features of the item you wish to grade. Here's a Canadian grading system that shows gradings for different municipal assets. Note how each grading system is different according to the asset being graded. https://pubsaskdev.blob.core.windows.net/pubsask-prod/92458/92458-Asset_Management_Condition_Grading_Standards.pdf The military produce the best grading systems, but once again, they're only applicable to the asset classification being graded. All military items receive classifications under their type and use. This is a standardised NATO system and is in use in all NATO countries. It is called the NATO Stock Number (NSN). Along with the NSN, NATO forces use coloured tagging to indicate equipment condition. The coloured tagging is limited to 5 colours, which covers the essential 5 stages of equipment condition. https://www.creativesafetysupply.com/articles/military-equipment/ 2 1
danny_galaga Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) Agree there Onetrack. We could be talking about anything from a toilet to a computer to a road surface to an aircraft. Oh, that colour tag system is nice and simple though. That would cover a lot, just having to determine what 'servicing' means for different items etc. In a most general sense you can ask, flow chart style: Is it new (may or may not matter. If it's clothing it could be a pertinent question)? Y/N. If Y or N: is it ready for service? If N, is it serviceable? If N- can it be recycled/stripped of useful parts? Y- is it economically viable to repair? Y/N Etc. bit hard to demonstrate here, but Simple in a flow chart. Edited December 30, 2023 by danny_galaga 1
facthunter Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Yes you can't hope to have a "universal" system that does much. . Nev
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