Mansfield to licola Victoria

[facthunter]

When did that rule come in? Nev

[turboplanner]

  On 29/12/2023 at 8:10 AM, facthunter said:

When did that rule come in? Nev

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You need to learn how to use the quote function so people know who you are asking.

[Blueadventures]

  On 29/12/2023 at 8:22 AM, turboplanner said:

You need to learn how to use the quote function so people know who you are asking.

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Agree as it links the answer / question to a reply.  Good helpful advice.  Cheers.

[skippydiesel]

  On 29/12/2023 at 9:23 AM, Blueadventures said:

Agree as it links the answer / question to a reply.  Good helpful advice.  Cheers.

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Nah! It's way more funner this way😈

[skippydiesel]

  On 29/12/2023 at 8:22 AM, turboplanner said:

You need to learn how to use the quote function so people know who you are asking.

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Don't listen to mim Nev - remain true to yourself😎

[Blueadventures]

  On 29/12/2023 at 9:40 AM, skippydiesel said:

Nah! It's way more funner this way😈

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But such always confuses my simple mind🤪

[facthunter]

It referred to the Post IMMEDIATELY preceding it. Better than quoting out of context, which is one of my pet hates.   Bit niggly aren't ya? If everyone was the same it would be a dull world.  Nev.

[turboplanner]

  On 29/12/2023 at 9:22 PM, facthunter said:

It referred to the Post IMMEDIATELY preceding it. Better than quoting out of context, which is one of my pet hates.   Bit niggly aren't ya? If everyone was the same it would be a dull world.  Nev.

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It's just good manners.

The post before yours had nothing to do with a new rule.

[facthunter]

Well THAT WAS what I was referring to.  And an apology from you would be good manners in the circumstances.  Nev

[Student Pilot]

  On 29/12/2023 at 9:44 PM, facthunter said:

Well THAT WAS what I was referring to.  And an apology from you would be good manners in the circumstances.  Nev

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 Specting a bit much there Nev 😆 

[prwood]

  On 29/12/2023 at 7:27 AM, skippydiesel said:

Ooooh! Prwood  - not sure it's quite the done thing, to call out someones performance claims😈

He probably has all sorts of high speed enhancements 😎

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Jato perhaps?

[BrendAn]

  On 29/12/2023 at 6:13 AM, prwood said:

Brendan, you quoted speed of 65kts with high cruise of 80kts. I had an X-air standard with a 618 for 10 years. The cruise speed was around 55-60kts. No way could we get 80kts. The X-air stated cruise is 54kts & a max speed of 65kts with VNE 82kts

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75 to 80 knots Jabiru powered without a headwind of course. My current one is 582 powered and only good for 55 to 60 cruise. I haven't picked up the Jabiru one yet but the previous owner says it cruised above 75 easy. It will do vne. That one has flown from Gippsland to Brisbane, 14 hours though.😁

[BrendAn]

  On 29/12/2023 at 7:27 AM, skippydiesel said:

Ooooh! Prwood  - not sure it's quite the done thing, to call out someones performance claims😈

He probably has all sorts of high speed enhancements 😎

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You have been nothing but a smartarse since I posted this question. Don't you have something else to do.

[BrendAn]

  On 30/12/2023 at 5:13 AM, prwood said:

Jato perhaps?

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Don't be daft, you are not allowed to use jatos in the bush during summer.

[BrendAn]

Just to be clear, I am not going to jump in my ultralight and go crossing mountains tomorrow, it's just something I would like to consider down the track. Maybe even the odd trip up to the licola area and back . It's not very far from west sale.

[Bosi72]

Here is good read for anyone flying in the mountains. 

 

https://www.aviation.govt.nz/assets/publications/gaps/caa-gap-mountain-flying-may-2021-web.pdf

[BrendAn]

  On 30/12/2023 at 9:41 AM, Bosi72 said:

Here is good read for anyone flying in the mountains. 

 

https://www.aviation.govt.nz/assets/publications/gaps/caa-gap-mountain-flying-may-2021-web.pdf

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Excellent. Thanks

[walrus]

Brendan: "Just to be clear, I am not going to jump in my ultralight and go crossing mountains tomorrow, it's just something I would like to consider down the track. Maybe even the odd trip up to the licola area and back . It's not very far from west sale.".

 

 

Yes Brendan, but we don't know that you aren't a complete idiot like the guy who killed himself attempting something similar, who had zero experience. That is why we all react..

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-20/mount-beauty-plane-crash-victim-mathew-farrell-mourned/101458134

 

 

''I know the Mansfield region pretty well and have had one or two closes shaves.......

 

''Remember that there are old pilots and bold pilots, but not old and bold...

[RFguy]

I think the most useful info and tidbits  I have learned about flying has come from glider pilots. 

[Love to fly]

I have flown Tocumwal/ Bairnsdale and reverse on several occasions, so similar track to what you are asking about.  TAS at 140 knots in the RV.  The lowest safe for the area is high, over 7,000'.  Not sure how long it would take you to get there or what performance you would have.   For me its about 70 minutes flight time each way, and not all of that is over the high country..  One recent trip I had over 58 knots headwinds for about 15 minutes.  Was fine at 9,000' (IFR).  I wouldn't have been comfortable down lower or in a lower performance aircraft.  If the weather is even slightly forecast as dodgy I choose a lower route.

You may be going over a Designated Remote Area so would need to check the rules for that and make sure you comply re reporting and equipment.  Not onerous but important.  You may also need clearance through East Sale Airspace depending on where you're starting/finishing your trip.  

And asking for advice is always a good thing to do.

[BrendAn]

  On 05/02/2024 at 12:20 AM, Love to fly said:

I have flown Tocumwal/ Bairnsdale and reverse on several occasions, so similar track to what you are asking about.  TAS at 140 knots in the RV.  The lowest safe for the area is high, over 7,000'.  Not sure how long it would take you to get there or what performance you would have.   For me its about 70 minutes flight time each way, and not all of that is over the high country..  One recent trip I had over 58 knots headwinds for about 15 minutes.  Was fine at 9,000' (IFR).  I wouldn't have been comfortable down lower or in a lower performance aircraft.  If the weather is even slightly forecast as dodgy I choose a lower route.

You may be going over a Designated Remote Area so would need to check the rules for that and make sure you comply re reporting and equipment.  Not onerous but important.  You may also need clearance through East Sale Airspace depending on where you're starting/finishing your trip.  

And asking for advice is always a good thing to do.

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thanks.  you would have gone over the snowfields to bairnsdale. mt hotham is 6000 ft . i wouldn't be that daring. i was only considering going around mt skene from licola nth to mansfield. around 1600ft so i guess 2500 above sl. i am based in east sale airspace. 

[RFguy]

I was gung ho when learning to fly about some of the routes and places I would go.

But what I've found is some of these routes can be very uncomfortable and unpleasant to fly over with any wind around, without being up in the stratosphere. 

so now constraints are  < wind? cloud ? after lunch weather ? fatigue ? > Alot of prerequisites to tick before I go anywhere. 

[BrendAn]

  On 05/02/2024 at 5:04 AM, RFguy said:

I was gung ho when learning to fly about some of the routes and places I would go.

But what I've found is some of these routes can be very uncomfortable and unpleasant to fly over with any wind around, without being up in the stratosphere. 

so now constraints are  < wind? cloud ? after lunch weather ? fatigue ? > Alot of prerequisites to tick before I go anywhere. 

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it would be a fair while before i do any trips let alone that one. one day when i have the hours up and the weather permits.  did you see mark butchers trip on youtube the other. only took him 1 and a half hrs from traralgon to wang. straight over tiger country, he had just flown across bass straight so a few hills were not going to bother him.

[Love to fly]

  On 05/02/2024 at 5:15 AM, BrendAn said:

it would be a fair while before i do any trips let alone that one. one day when i have the hours up and the weather permits.  did you see mark butchers trip on youtube the other. only took him 1 and a half hrs from traralgon to wang. straight over tiger country, he had just flown across bass straight so a few hills were not going to bother him.

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No hills on Bass Strait though 🤔

[RFguy]

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Edited February 5, 2024 by RFguy