From 7 news. Milan (Italy) 777 tail scrap takeoff

[flying dog]

Wow, the clip on the news was horrific!

 

The plane scraping it's backside down the runway for a long time and TOOK OFF!!!

 

I think there was a serious problem with their static trim or weight and balance sheet.

 

Sorry can't give more details.

[onetrack]

It was a LATAM B777-300, and after takeoff, it circled for an hour and dumped fuel, then returned for a successful landing. The aircraft has incurred a substantial level of damage and is undergoing repairs. An investigation has been launched into the reason/s for the tail strike. No-one is saying very much, but it must surely be incorrect weight-balance calculations.

 

Boeing 777 drags tail hundreds of feet along runaway before takeoff

WWW.NEWSWEEK.COM

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The incident, involving a Chilean LATAM Airlines plane, resulted in no injuries thanks to the pilots' quick thinking.

 

[facthunter]

It's difficult to scrape the tail/ fuselage with the horizontal stab low down  Not a T tail) and ground effect trying to prevent it. The pitch attitude remained too high unless the plane was quite light.. A 747 took off on the wrong runway at Tulla and damaged the underside of the rear fuselage when they had to drag it into the Air and the approach lights at the far end penetrated the rear fuselage. This incident is not like that . Such a Nose high attitude early would create more drag than normal, so the acceleration rate would be reduced.  I have no idea what caused it and I'm not speculating but I'm glad I wasn't on it. Nev

[flying dog]

Fair enough to not speculate.

 

But something definitely went wrong.

[pmccarthy]

My dog does that.

[onetrack]

So ... you're speculating the B777 just had an itchy bum?

[pmccarthy]

Is that why he does it? I thought it was weight and balance.

[flying dog]

Since found a clip on ewetube.

 

 

[facthunter]

When Dogs do that they usually have worms.   What happened with   that plane was EXCEEDINGLY Dangerous. Something is VERY WRONG alright. You can't do it if everything is normal. There's a special shock absorbing sacrificial strut fitted to the B727.  It will ALL be determined by analysing the recorders on the Plane. It will need considerable repairs before it flys again.  Nev

[flying dog]

Ok, kinda off topic, but that's like the JAL 747 combi.......

 

It did a tail strike and it was "fixed"....  Several years later while flying the read pressure plate failed and the whole of the back of the plane fell off.

 

The accident was put down to the original problem caused it to fail in flight.

[facthunter]

The repair to the Rear pressure bulkhead was not done in accordance with Boeing's recommended procedures. The repairs needed on this one will be even more extensive. It may be written off IMHO.   Nev

[onetrack]

No, the bulkhead failed on JAL Flight 123 because of an incorrect repair method, using two parallel repair plates instead of one plate fully covering the damaged area. Then another plate was added over the top of the two parallel plates, so the cracking that started again, which eventually caused the bulkhead failure, was not seen in later bulkhead inspections. 

 

Japan Air Lines Flight 123 - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[flying dog]

Ah.    Ok.

 

Sorry.

 

It is hard to remember all the details of all the ACI episodes.   😉

 

Back to this though:

 

Yes it will be interesting to see what is shared with everyone to what happened.

[facthunter]

I would expect it ALL to come out due to the seriousness of this one. . . Anyone operating that type would need to know and there are Aviation related organisations who routinely get all this stuff as a matter of course, like FAA and other nations AVIATION authorities and Pilot unions etc.. At one stage I was getting all of them too because of a job I  had at the time..  Nev