a couple of left over b17s after the war.

[danny_galaga]

Regards this bone yard. It's always good practice to not destroy everything you have the moment it's surplus, because if you go straight into another conflict, you're on the back foot.

 

Sadly, this is helping the Ruskies at the moment, as they have been pulling out surplus tanks to press into service as the Ukrainians destroy their current stock. Some of them have been in storage since the sixties! Clearly you wouldn't see that happen with aircraft, but waiting say five years before scrapping would be prudent.

[BrendAn]

another good photo. corsair wing lock failed when it took off

[onetrack]

Don't ya just hate it, when that happens?? 😄

[red750]

This is a direct link to the aircraft graveyards page:

 

https://planehistoria.com/the-silent-witness-of-air-history-aircraft-graveyards/

[danny_galaga]

10 hours ago, BrendAn said:

another good photo. corsair wing lock failed when it took off

He probably died on impact 😔

[onetrack]

Not necessarily. Yes, the pilots body wasn't recovered from this accident, which is sad. However, at the relatively low airspeed he was at (as compared to a combat crash), the pilot could've survived initial impact, but drowned because he was knocked unconscious, or because he couldn't escape the cockpit fast enough, before the aircraft went under water. This is why underwater escape training has become an important field in recent decades.

 

https://www.history.navy.mil/content/dam/nhhc/research/histories/naval-aviation/Naval Aviation News/1990/1997/november-december/vapor.pdf

[danny_galaga]

Whats the launch speed of a Corsair? Maybe 200 km/h? Barrel rolling into the drink at 200 km/h. Dunno. You'd cross your fingers for him, but...

[Deano747]

More than likely the carrier ran over him. Carriers back then didn't have angled decks ........

[BrendAn]

another good photo .aircraft tug still chained to the deck of a sunken aircraft carrier 5300 mts deep.

[danny_galaga]

2 hours ago, BrendAn said:

another good photo .aircraft tug still chained to the deck of a sunken aircraft carrier 5300 mts deep.

😲

 

Amazing it stayed in place. I'm guessing the carrier went straight down rather than sliding in 

[onetrack]

What an amazing shot, and being able to find an aircraft tug still in position. I'd have to opine it was chained down or held in place with steel wire rope. I'd like to see photos of all the new items of machinery and aircraft that went down in the Atlantic between 1941 and 1944, thanks to the German U-boats.

 

America lost 3,500 ships to the U-boats during the Battle of the Atlantic, and most were Merchant Marine ships, and poorly armed or completely unarmed. They were nearly all full of new equipment for the British and Soviet militaries - aircraft, trucks, jeeps, tractors, Caterpillar dozers and graders, and other earthmovers. New portable gensets, new engines, new tyres, new construction materials, and a thousand other items needed to support the War effort.

 

Battle of the Atlantic - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[BrendAn]

124K views · 1K reactions | Pants change needed #pilotscafe...

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Pants change needed #pilotscafe #aviation. Pilots Cafe · Original audio

 

[onetrack]

Good thing he had plenty of power available!!

[BrendAn]

Just now, onetrack said:

Good thing he had plenty of power available!!

Would have to buy a couple of lotto tickets after that.

[kgwilson]

On 27/08/2024 at 9:43 PM, onetrack said:

What an amazing shot, and being able to find an aircraft tug still in position. I'd have to opine it was chained down or held in place with steel wire rope. I'd like to see photos of all the new items of machinery and aircraft that went down in the Atlantic between 1941 and 1944, thanks to the German U-boats.

 

America lost 3,500 ships to the U-boats during the Battle of the Atlantic, and most were Merchant Marine ships, and poorly armed or completely unarmed. They were nearly all full of new equipment for the British and Soviet militaries - aircraft, trucks, jeeps, tractors, Caterpillar dozers and graders, and other earthmovers. New portable gensets, new engines, new tyres, new construction materials, and a thousand other items needed to support the War effort.

 

Battle of the Atlantic - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

America didn't lose 3500 ships during the battle of the Atlantic, the Allies as a whole did and they sank 783 U boats and 47 surface ships including 4 Battleships, the first of which was the Bismark. The great majority of merchant ships were British and escorting warships were mainly from the Royal Navy and Canadian Navy.

[onetrack]

Yes, my apologies, I meant to write "Allied" instead of "American", but I was distracted when I wrote that line up and was concentrating on other things.

 

According to the site below, though, the U.S. Merchant Marine suffered the worst losses of all the civilian shipping losses during WW2 - 733 ships over 1000 tons lost, and 1,554 ships in total. 

Many U.S. ships were either reflagged or sailed under flags of countries that were U.S. possessions - such as the Phillipines and Panama. The Panama Canal was under U.S. possession during WW2.

 

U.S. Merchant Ships Sunk or Damaged in World War II

WWW.USMM.ORG

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American Merchant Marine Ships Sunk or Damaged During World War II

 

[onetrack]

Scrap was gathered from everywhere to fuel the furnaces for war. I can recall when in the U.K., learning how the steel and wrought iron fences around many important homes and places were pulled out and melted down.

Aluminium scrap was sought far and wide. Every single item with even a small amount of aluminium in it was gathered up and fed into the furnaces. Cars, trucks, tractors, anything deemed to not be repairable was sent to scrap.

I can recall an old Italian wrecker at Dog Swamp, W.A., who retired in 1974, telling me how he nearly cried when he thought back to how many beautiful brass and chrome radiator shells and headlights and trims, from now rare and outstanding vehicles of the 1920's and 1930's, were sent by him for scrap, for the War effort.

Check out the photos on the AWM site, of the monstrous piles of scrap gathered up for the War effort. Even old tyres assumed enormous value for their rubber content when the Japanese had cornered the rubber supplies in 1942 and 1943.

 

Edited August 30 by onetrack