Transponder ADSB

[Moneybox]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Pilots make the  decision to divert  due weather  en route except in the case of an aerodrome being declared closed.  Nev

 

Karratha airport may have been closed due to the trajectory of Tropical Cyclone Sean.

[facthunter]

When I flew through cyclone KEN No aerodromes were closed It would depend on Local  circumstances. Power outages debris on runways etc.  I didn't get any turbulence  Just a bit of St Elmos at the edges of the windows.  Nev

Edited January 25 by facthunter
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[rgmwa]

4 hours ago, facthunter said:

 Just a bit of St Elmos at the edges of the windows.  Nev

I saw that once. I was the lucky passenger sitting in the copilot's seat on a King Air flying back to Perth from Shark Bay on a stormy day after last light. Green lightning dancing around the cockpit windows. It was fascinating to see.

 

Edited January 25 by rgmwa

[Deano747]

When passengers were still able to come to visit the flight deck, we had one lady come up with both front windows a full blown lightning storm.

It was a spectacular show but as she ran shrieking all the way back through business class and down the stairs, we figured that it may not have been such an appropriate time for a pax visit.

[facthunter]

You get the stElmos before the lightning. Ona DC4 there was a white light going forward of Both wingtips, then BAM, ball lightning everywhere. Didn't seem to do much other than scare $#1t out of us and temporary Blindness... Between Darwin and East Timor the monsoon clouds looked like a wall of green Ice going to about 60,000 feet.  That was on the F-27.  QF 1308..  Nev

[spacesailor]

And, no pictures for posterity. 

spacesailor

[facthunter]

You're correct, but you are not exactly just sitting there twiddling your thumbs at the time.   Natures forces render Man's Puny machinery , Insignificant. Nev

[Underwood]

On 25/01/2025 at 3:25 AM, facthunter said:

When I flew through cyclone KEN No aerodromes were closed It would depend on Local  circumstances. Power outages debris on runways etc.  I didn't get any turbulence  Just a bit of St Elmos at the edges of the windows.  Nev

Wow, I've never even seen a DC4 for real. I'm not sure if they were ever common here in the UK does it have any form of autopilot fitted? I know the DC6 had a sort of crude one I think called a Gyro-pilot?

[facthunter]

The trip above was about 1982 and the Plane was a  DC9-20  Operating a scheduled service Perth Pt Hedland Darwin. depart PH at about 2230 local time.

   Going back a bit, C-54/ DC 4s were introduce hereabout 1950 and Qantas , Ansett and TAA had them. They left here at the end of 1968  They have Full 3 axis autopilot with hydraulic servos, but not pressurised. The DC-6 was a bigger development of the DC4. Pressurised, faster cruising at higher Levels and with more range. We flew the DC4 with a crew of two Pilots and the DC-6 has a flight engineer as well.  Nev

[Freizeitpilot]

Below is a different take on ADS-B from the US. The ‘S’ does stand for surveillance I suppose.  As far as collecting airport fees using ADS-B data, I can also see an opportunity locally to refute spurious AvData fees which seems to crop up occasionally.

 

Hopefully this US based experience doesn’t detract from the uptake in Oz and the obvious safety benefits.

“Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) President and CEO Darren Pleasance announced today he has sent a letter to Acting FAA Administrator Chris Rocheleau protesting use of ADS-B data in “ways that go beyond its original intent.” Pleasance pointed out that AOPA supported the ADS-B mandate when it was implemented back in 2020, “as we were assured ADS-B would only be used to improve air traffic safety and airspace efficiencies."

But the pilots’ group reports it receives weekly feedback from members who are frustrated with instances of ADS-B data being used for non-safety-related purposes. They include: “questionable” FAA enforcement actions; evidence in lawsuits filed against pilots for “nuisance, trespass, and causing emotional distress;” and third-party companies using ADS-B data to facilitate collecting airport fees.

In the letter, Pleasance wrote: “Aircraft owners invested over half a billion dollars of their own money to comply with the ADS-B mandate, believing it would only be used to make flying safer and more efficient. Instead, they are increasingly being targeted with enforcement actions, legal harassment, and bills from third parties to collect airport fees—things that are far from the equipage mandate’s original purpose. We will advocate to protect pilots’ privacy and ensure ADS-B remains a tool used solely for its intended purpose, safety and airspace efficiency.”

[Moneybox]

With services like Flightradar 24 it leaves you open to scrutiny by anybody. Your movements are easily tracked once that ADSB transponder is turned on and if you're not going to turn it on than why install it in the first place. Your movements are tracked every day by street cameras picking up your number plate and facial recognition tracking you walking through the city.  

[skippydiesel]

"........facial recognition tracking you walking through the city"

 

In Australia???

 

The larger retail outlets (Bunnings/Woolworths, etc) have been in the media recently for having this technology in some of their stores BUT walking through a city - I think not.

 

There is no doubt that some countries (mainly totalitarian regimes) are using this technology on their general population. Its use in western democracies is (I hope) very limited (ports ?).

 

The Poms are reputed to have very wide spread CCT cameras all over their cities,  but unless linked to facial recognition is at least a "half step away" from such draconian technology.😈

[facthunter]

Just pull "Funny" faces all the time and as a bonus the other Pedestrians will give you a wide Berth. Nev

[Moneybox]

1 hour ago, skippydiesel said:

"........facial recognition tracking you walking through the city"

 

In Australia???

 

The larger retail outlets (Bunnings/Woolworths, etc) have been in the media recently for having this technology in some of their stores BUT walking through a city - I think not.

 

There is no doubt that some countries (mainly totalitarian regimes) are using this technology on their general population. Its use in western democracies is (I hope) very limited (ports ?).

 

The Poms are reputed to have very wide spread CCT cameras all over their cities,  but unless linked to facial recognition is at least a "half step away" from such draconian technology.😈

https://youtu.be/WWmz56zySw0 

[skippydiesel]

Moneybox - Your video is likly State/Local Gov. propaganda  - CCTV cameras, in Australia, are not (usually) linked to facial recognition. 

 

Circumstance - Perth, the largest English city outside the UK?😈

[facthunter]

That's a claim I've never heard before. It's called the "Windy" City, not the "whingey" City.  Nev

[Moneybox]

23 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Moneybox - Your video is likly State/Local Gov. propaganda  - CCTV cameras, in Australia, are not (usually) linked to facial recognition. 

 

Circumstance - Perth, the largest English city outside the UK?😈

Next time you leave your country retreat and head into the city take a look about. We did quite a bit of walking on this last trip south and the cameras are hanging like a bunch of grapes on a post particularly down the mall. 

[skippydiesel]

1 minute ago, Moneybox said:

Next time you leave your country retreat and head into the city take a look about. We did quite a bit of walking on this last trip south and the cameras are hanging like a bunch of grapes on a post particularly down the mall. 

Yeah! BUT is it Facial Recognition or just general surveillance (as I suspect)😈

[onetrack]

It's not "direct facial recognition" with all the cameras, they merely take good footage of you - and the footage can be made available to police, for inquiries related to criminal investigations.

Any private video or camera footage cannot be demanded or be forced on the spot to be handed over to authorities, but orders can be made for police to have access to it, for crime solving purposes.

If you are in a "public place", you can be photographed or videoed. But you cannot be videoed or photographed if you are in a "private place" and have an expectation that there is no intrusion by others. Thus, there are no cameras in toilets - but there ARE cameras in the areas/passageways leading up to toilet doors.

 

The only direct facial recognition that is Govt sanctioned and in use, is when you step through that passport ID recognition setup in airports. THAT system DEFINITELY involves facial recognition and it checks against your face on your passport photo.

But, be aware that cameras today have very good resolution, they are mounted by the hundreds along major roads, and at traffic lights - they're mounted in parks, city open spaces, cafes and restaurants - in shops - and in speed cameras, and in mobile phone use cameras. The images can be zoomed in on for clear identification, so keep legal!

 

Here's a story to give you a chuckle, showing that the systems still have large holes. Stepdaughters partner had the loan of one of my Hilux utes for a few weeks, while his Falcon was being repaired after a bingle. He was snapped by a speed camera just past the top of Greenmount Hill on the Gt Eastern Hwy, at around 8:00PM.

He got the "bluey" for a $100 speeding fine in the mail a few weeks later (he was only a few kms/hr over the 80kmh limit) - but the part that made his eyeballs bulge, was - the photo showed his face VERY clearly - and it also VERY clearly showed him yapping away on his mobile phone!!

He paid the $100 fine very promptly, before someone in the traffic fines dept, woke up to the fact that they'd missed an opportunity to lob a $1000 mobile phone use fine on him!! 😄 

[facthunter]

Ah. Thanks  A Wolloper

[BrendAn]

22 hours ago, onetrack said:

It's not "direct facial recognition" with all the cameras, they merely take good footage of you - and the footage can be made available to police, for inquiries related to criminal investigations.

Any private video or camera footage cannot be demanded or be forced on the spot to be handed over to authorities, but orders can be made for police to have access to it, for crime solving purposes.

If you are in a "public place", you can be photographed or videoed. But you cannot be videoed or photographed if you are in a "private place" and have an expectation that there is no intrusion by others. Thus, there are no cameras in toilets - but there ARE cameras in the areas/passageways leading up to toilet doors.

 

The only direct facial recognition that is Govt sanctioned and in use, is when you step through that passport ID recognition setup in airports. THAT system DEFINITELY involves facial recognition and it checks against your face on your passport photo.

But, be aware that cameras today have very good resolution, they are mounted by the hundreds along major roads, and at traffic lights - they're mounted in parks, city open spaces, cafes and restaurants - in shops - and in speed cameras, and in mobile phone use cameras. The images can be zoomed in on for clear identification, so keep legal!

 

Here's a story to give you a chuckle, showing that the systems still have large holes. Stepdaughters partner had the loan of one of my Hilux utes for a few weeks, while his Falcon was being repaired after a bingle. He was snapped by a speed camera just past the top of Greenmount Hill on the Gt Eastern Hwy, at around 8:00PM.

He got the "bluey" for a $100 speeding fine in the mail a few weeks later (he was only a few kms/hr over the 80kmh limit) - but the part that made his eyeballs bulge, was - the photo showed his face VERY clearly - and it also VERY clearly showed him yapping away on his mobile phone!!

He paid the $100 fine very promptly, before someone in the traffic fines dept, woke up to the fact that they'd missed an opportunity to lob a $1000 mobile phone use fine on him!! 😄 

Happened to me a few months ago on the hume camera caught me looking at Google maps in my phone. $418 and 3 points.

[facthunter]

Is NOTHING sacred? Nev

[spacesailor]

It's not illegal to use the old CB communications set .

I still use one , And for out  boating member.  The " long-range  " radio - net is still working .

I have my licence  but am I allowed to transmit from a shore station ,  

Orr do I have to gain the amateur license. 

I can listen  in with my " Yaesu " short wave set .

spacesailor

[Moneybox]

3 hours ago, spacesailor said:

It's not illegal to use the old CB communications set .

I still use one , And for out  boating member.  The " long-range  " radio - net is still working .

I have my licence  but am I allowed to transmit from a shore station ,  

Orr do I have to gain the amateur license. 

I can listen  in with my " Yaesu " short wave set .

spacesailor

 

Perhaps when you get your radio endorsement on your pilot license you'll have it covered?

[spacesailor]

Pilots cirtificate is " radio " air to air & air to ground only .

Air traffic controller exempt.  And does not need a pilots license. 

( as was taught in training )

spacesailor