BrendAn Posted October 22 Posted October 22 a plane went down in a paddock near the aerodrome at 11.30, maybe just an engine out. although the news report said the police had grave fears for the pilot.
BrendAn Posted October 22 Author Posted October 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Blueadventures said: That’s a hard hit. Doesn’t look good. pilot confirmed deceased. Edited October 22 by BrendAn 2
FrankPilot Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) How tragic. I see these and worry more about my own low-hours, daylight only, good-weather only, recreational flying, but I am so addicted to it! Edited October 23 by FrankPilot
BrendAn Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 16 minutes ago, FrankPilot said: How tragic. I see these and worry more about my own low-hours, daylight only, good-weather only, recreational flying, but I am so addicted to it! i know what you mean. 1
JMLIS Posted October 23 Posted October 23 No pilot was born with lots of hours, just a little luck and a lot of learning! 1
BrendAn Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 42 minutes ago, JMLIS said: No pilot was born with lots of hours, just a little luck and a lot of learning! And even pilots with 10.000 hrs still have accidents. That's the bit I worry about. 3 1
BrendAn Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 22 hours ago, FrankPilot said: How tragic. I see these and worry more about my own low-hours, daylight only, good-weather only, recreational flying, but I am so addicted to it! there is a great post from thruster88 if i can find it, he listed 3 or 4 rules that will keep you safe if you don't break them. 2
FrankPilot Posted October 24 Posted October 24 57 minutes ago, BrendAn said: there is a great post from thruster88 if i can find it, he listed 3 or 4 rules that will keep you safe if you don't break them. Would love to see what he says - I collect and study this stuff. Cheers. 1
Bosi72 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 23/10/2024 at 12:55 PM, FrankPilot said: How tragic. I see these and worry more about my own low-hours, daylight only, good-weather only, recreational flying, but I am so addicted to it! Keep flying, get additional endorsements, fly with other pilots.. Learning never stops. 2
facthunter Posted October 24 Posted October 24 We all get addicted to it. It's expensive and is an unforgiving environment with a lot of annoying paperwork. Always assess IF it's giving you bang for your bucks.. That's permitted. . IF you build, that will probably take all your time and money but I respect those that do.. If you fly, pick your times and circumstances If there's a doubt about something eliminate the doubt where possible. No "she'll be right mate" Nev 2
BrendAn Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 12 minutes ago, facthunter said: We all get addicted to it. It's expensive and is an unforgiving environment with a lot of annoying paperwork. Always assess IF it's giving you bang for your bucks.. That's permitted. . IF you build, that will probably take all your time and money but I respect those that do.. If you fly, pick your times and circumstances If there's a doubt about something eliminate the doubt where possible. No "she'll be right mate" Nev There are those of us happy just to fly low performance aircraft in our local area. It's a safe and economical way to get In the air, but the governing body is leaving us behind. The cost of Training and registration and the lack of instructors is a big hurdle. I know people who would like to pursue this sector of the hobby but can't be bothered, it's just too hard now. Raaus consider a 200k LSA as the standard ultralight these days. I know I have gone on about this before. 2
Thruster88 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 5 hours ago, FrankPilot said: Would love to see what he says - I collect and study this stuff. Cheers. For day Visual Flight Rules single engine aircraft, never allow the aircraft to stall spin even when there might be some distraction from say an engine failure, sick passenger or a moose on the ground. Don't fly in cloud. Don't hoon, low flying etc. That would cover 90% of all fatals for this class of aircraft. Airspeed is life. I suspect the accident at Baccus is a stall given the position of the wreckage relative to the runway. 3 1
BrendAn Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 (edited) Referring to my last post.I shouldn't blame raaus it's probably more to do with evolution than them. Most people want to go faster and further,I understand that. It's just a pity there is no place for the lower end. Edited October 24 by BrendAn 2
facthunter Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) Some people are still doing it and in the Past, many of them flew to Natfly which in some circumstances could be a pretty EPIC event. Most had 2 stroke power.. RAAus did present themselves as "The NEW GA". I personally felt that was a "step too FAR " but that's just me. . Why duplicate GA? Well, they CASA want to be rid of this" troublesome stuff" and that seems pretty clear.. One court case nearly eliminated the RAAus by it's cost. Who in the top echelon flys 2 stroke powered Basic U/L's? Where you fly from should be a hive of activity so there's a Social side of this as well.. If you are mostly doing it on your own, it maybe is not a lot of fun. This is a bit off topic but a logical development of the inexperienced pilot aspect. The event could be something out of the control of the Pilot also. Never rule out "weird" winds. Nev Edited October 24 by facthunter 1 1
spacesailor Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) There once was . 18 Hummel Bird builders on my " builders list " . untill RaA took over AUF . one got to the new 10-19- registered. That's a fair amount of missing ' pilots/ members ' of RAA . spacesailor PS. : low powered aircraft with good performance . Edited October 24 by spacesailor PS added 1 1
facthunter Posted October 24 Posted October 24 You've made plenty of use of your plane without flying it and kept safe. Nev 1
spacesailor Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Almost crashed . Motor pulling 3g revs , pulled back on the controls. And I was looking at the roof not the garage door . What a shock , just the air pressure from the prop making the elevator work. Fixed that smartly , a ' stand ' under the rear fuselage and removel of the joystick . spacesailor 2 1
pmccarthy Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Contrary to the argument for pre- planning, what I enjoy most is getting up to 3000 feet then thinking” where will I go today?” Then flying for up to two hours (total out and back) in any direction. I know all the territory and can’t get lost and I have an iPad and a phone with OzRunways and other good stuff. Probably a dozen airfields I can choose to land on if I wish within that range. A couple need Notam checking, most don’t. It’s not like a trip which needs planning, just the freedom of flying. 7 1
FrankPilot Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) Further to my post above, my greatest fears are: 1. Mid air collision (my CFI and his student, and another CFI and his student, were all killed in a mid-air collision alongside Mangalore, Victoria, about 3 years ago.) TCAS should be compulsory in ALL aircraft IMHO. 2. Mechanical/structural failure resulting in loss of control. I always try to remember the secondary effects, elevator failure then use engine, aileron failure then use rudder, rudder failure then use aileron. But still ….. ! 3. Forced landing from engine failure. Gliding down at the right speed OK. But ….. Finding and making it into a good spot! Things you might see from above like rocks holes etc.! I am a super safe pilot, but we can only mitigate the above things to a certain extent. Being aware of them helps to be able to mitigate them. Fortunately, they are rare. I still fly despite the above things. As my CFI used to say, nervous OK, paranoid not OK. Cheers Frank Edited October 24 by FrankPilot 3
FrankPilot Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Meant to say in post immediately above: * TCAS IN and OUT * Things you might NOT see from above like rocks holes etc! Cheers
FrankPilot Posted October 24 Posted October 24 3 hours ago, pmccarthy said: Contrary to the argument for pre- planning, what I enjoy most is getting up to 3000 feet then thinking” where will I go today?” Then flying for up to two hours (total out and back) in any direction. I know all the territory and can’t get lost and I have an iPad and a phone with OzRunways and other good stuff. Probably a dozen airfields I can choose to land on if I wish within that range. A couple need Notam checking, most don’t. It’s not like a trip which needs planning, just the freedom of flying. Could you tell me which of the dozen airfields are your favourites. I would like to try them myself because around my base of Tyabb there are not many. Cheers.
FlyBoy1960 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 13 hours ago, spacesailor said: untill RaA took over AUF . one got to the new 10-19- registered. They didn't take it over, it just changed its name to represent the new types of aircraft available so they removed the word "ultralight" from their name and replaced it with aviation. There was and is such a stigma over the word ultralight. The media love to use that word to describe crazy people flying aircraft made from stuff you buy at Bunnings with a lawnmower engine on the front (or back). Anyway it was just an evolutional it wasn't a takeover or anything nefarious
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