Blueadventures Posted October 26 Posted October 26 FATAL PLANE CRASH OAKDALE 12:40PM, Saturday 26th October Emergency services have responded to a fatal plane crash in Sydney’s southwest today. About 11.50am (Saturday 26 October 2024), emergency services responded to reports two light planes had collided and crashed in the vicinity of Belimbla Park, near Oakdale. Officers from Camden Police Area Command are currently at the location and have secured two crime scenes. Members of the public are urged to avoid the area. No further information is available at this stage. An investigation into the cause of the crash will be undertaken by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB). 6
onetrack Posted October 26 Posted October 26 All on board both aircraft are deceased. 3 fatalities, all males. No indication yet of aircraft type, but appear to be GA aircraft? Three dead after two light planes collide over Belimbla Park in Sydney's south-west - ABC News WWW.ABC.NET.AU The light aircraft collide midair before crashing into bushland at Belimbla Park in Sydney's south-west. 2
BurnieM Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) I believe he flys out of The Oaks and it looks like this is approx 1 nm NW of The Oaks. From the ABC video it appears one plane is mainly white and the other mainly yellow. Edited October 26 by BurnieM 1
BrendAn Posted October 26 Posted October 26 he is showing up online now, thats a relief. such a terrible tragedy. 3 people that won't be going home tonight.
pylon500 Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Media now saying a Jabiru and Cessna 182; Shepparton News 🤷♂️ 2
skippydiesel Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Yes it's my area . Thanks for the thought, alive & well. I will leave the speculation to others but will report the death of two possibly three people. One of the aircraft, RAA Jab, was from The Oaks. The other appears to be VH registered, I do not know from where. The incident appears to have occurred at or about circuit height. 1
facthunter Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Fellow aviators and distraught friends and relatives. I think of them. When you fly you don't expect this to happen. Fly carefully folks.. Nev 4
red750 Posted October 26 Posted October 26 From Ch 7 News, this is the C182P, flying from Cessnock to Wollongong, the Jabiru had just taken off. 2
BurnieM Posted October 26 Posted October 26 https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/456466 https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/456459 1
JEM Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) Condolences to all. IIRC this cessna was the one time Wollongong Aerial Patrol aircraft Edited October 26 by JEM 1
flying dog Posted October 26 Posted October 26 interesting observations from what I've heard: If the jabiru had only just taken off how is such a large flight track shown on the history from the flight tracker? Why was the Cessna flying so low if going to Wollongong. They should have been at least 1500 AGL when flying over the oaks. It would be interesting to see if both aircraft radios were on the oaks frequency or on Sydney radar frequency. If they were not both on the same frequency, then neither would have known of the other plane in the vicinity. 2 1
skippydiesel Posted October 26 Posted October 26 The crashed Jab (A), in company with another Jab (B), departed The Oaks at around 11.30, for Cessnock. Jab B had a fuel problem in the vicinity of Badgerys Creek & decided to return to The Oaks. Jab A also decided to return. On return Jab A made a balked/missed landing. Jab B landed very shortly after. Jab A appeared to be going around for another landing attempt, when the accident occured. There was some turbulence in the area. To the best of my recollection there were no calls from the C182 and I have no idea why they would have been so low and likly in or very close, to the circuit pattern. The Oaks Circuit is 1900 ft. The 18 & 36 circuits are both to the west side. Inbound aircraft will usually be at 2500 ft prior to descent. 4
flying dog Posted October 26 Posted October 26 so ideally the Cessna should've been at 2500 feet AMSL when over flying the oaks. Does the flight track mentioned above give altitude of the Cessna? That seems to be a very interesting part of the puzzle. 1 1
Blueadventures Posted October 26 Author Posted October 26 11 minutes ago, flying dog said: so ideally the Cessna should've been at 2500 feet AMSL when over flying the oaks. Does the flight track mentioned above give altitude of the Cessna? That seems to be a very interesting part of the puzzle. Recommend Overfly at not below 2,500 feet. 1
kgwilson Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Very sad. Condolences to families and friends of the deceased. The flight path and altitude data of the C182 (if available) should reveal the situation and of course weather data as well. 2
skippydiesel Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Of possible interest - The Oaks is a Camden airfield inbound reporting point. Camden's circuit height is 1800 ft. Descent to circuit height is usually required some distance to the east of The Oaks (MT Hunter). On occasion aircraft overflying The Oaks, inbound to Camden, are well and truly on descent (low) over The Oaks. 3
skippydiesel Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Forgot to mention Camden & The Oaks on diffrent frequencies. 3
turboplanner Posted October 26 Posted October 26 ATSB are likely to detail the tracks and altitudes aircraft. One lesson if you are travelling cross country and/or need to flight plan a turn onto a new heading is not to use airfields to make the turn. Same goes with overflying. I know it feels reassuring if you can look down and see aircraft, but that’s where flying aircraft congregate and if you are not there you can’t get hit. The Flightaware track of the Jabiru is also illuminating by comparison with what’s in the VFRG. 1 1 1
BurnieM Posted October 26 Posted October 26 I believe the Cessna 182 is based at Shellharbour. It seems unlikely that he was not aware of The Oaks/Camden procedures/freqs. 1
flying dog Posted October 27 Posted October 27 (edited) Just heard one of the pilots was an ex QANTAS pilot (sorry, no more details.) Edited October 27 by flying dog 1
facthunter Posted October 27 Posted October 27 72 year old (Name included) It didn't say whether he was the passenger. Nev 1
red750 Posted October 27 Posted October 27 Ch 7 lists the other POB as a student (unnamed). The named pilot was a QANTAS captain for 36 years, and a former member of the Roulettes The Jabiru had previously been involved in a landing accident in Qld. about a year ago.
Roundsounds Posted October 27 Posted October 27 1 hour ago, flying dog said: Just heard one of the pilots was an ex QANTAS pilot (sorry, no more details.) Current B737 Capt’
BrendAn Posted October 27 Posted October 27 30 minutes ago, red750 said: Ch 7 lists the other POB as a student (unnamed). The named pilot was a QANTAS captain for 36 years, and a former member of the Roulettes The Jabiru had previously been involved in a landing accident in Qld. about a year ago. was that the jab that lost the oil filter and flipped nose over in a paddock 1
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