3 more gone too soon. Near Maffra 16/11/24

[facthunter]

A spin at low height is not recoverable so PREVENTION would be  the best course.. With stalls,  unload the wings or add full power. if required. Adding drag in any low speed situation requires an increased RoD or added power to compensate.  You anticipate this, not wait for the speed to drop.  It's energy management 101. 

  Planes that are docile are not so docile when heavy loaded, have a rearward CofG or  in a density Altitude limiting situation.  Ground effect is your friend if you want to stay in the Air and want to increase speed  in a tight go around. Nev

[kgwilson]

8 hours ago, djpacro said:

So, he would've known how to recover from a spin in a Pitts. I do spin endorsements for instructor trainees then emphasise that the technique I taught them only applies to the type that we did the training in, and they should read the POH for the type they will be instructing in. Then one needs enough height to recover hence the focus on prevention in UPRT.

As I mentioned you must know your aircraft. The Pitts is is about as different from the Cougar as you can get in light aircraft.

[facthunter]

The design of some planes makes spin recovery very uncertain.. Some get modified some don't.  You wouldn't have them in a flying school. Some might argue it would make you a better pilot but you to a great  extent MAKE your own luck..  Nev

[aro]

3 hours ago, kgwilson said:

The Pitts is is about as different from the Cougar as you can get in light aircraft.

I wasn't suggesting that any aircraft would be recoverable from that height, just commenting on the suggestion that aerobatic training might prevent this type of accident. It appears he did have aerobatic training.

[alf jessup]

Only had the plane 2 weeks so would have been very unfamiliar with its handling and quirks aircraft have.

yes may have had 600 hours and was an instructor but still a test pilot in an unfamiliar aircraft IMO and flying at a low level and gusty conditions in fairly tight turns is not something I would have been doing.

[facthunter]

Remember the friends and relatives. No one KNOWs exactly what happened for certain.  Nev

[alf jessup]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Remember the friends and relatives. No one KNOWs exactly what happened for certain.  Nev

True Nev,

But when you studied the ADSB data on flight radar you could see the see the ground speed data during flight and more so during the orbits as well as the altitude fluctuations.

It doesn’t take much to work out, a pleasure flight ended in tragedy for sure, no one intends on colliding with the ground when they take off.

And that’s not disrespecting the young pilot in this case.

I’ve flown hundreds of hours in that area and it can get quite nasty with NW, N and NE winds coming off the Great Dividing Range.

[facthunter]

I agree about the winds. Nev