PA-22 Ditching NZ 19 November 2024

[kiwiaviator]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/emergency-services-responding-to-unfolding-aviation-incident-at-tasman-bay-near-nelson/BZ4PVY52UJAZPJGKYPAMNPVQAQ/

 

Great outcome. Weather was good and emergency response quick which contributed to the pilot surviving. I understand he was in the water for nearly an hour. 90% of ditchings are survivable. Its just what happens after that which determines the fate of those onboard.

[djpacro]

“He was forced to land in water ..”

[facthunter]

The tripacer wouldn't be my choice of plane to ditch in.  Nev

[rgmwa]

If it was my choice I’d prefer something with floats but unfortunately you’ve got to work with what you’ve got. He did pretty well in the circumstances. 

[Student Pilot]

19 hours ago, kiwiaviator said:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/emergency-services-responding-to-unfolding-aviation-incident-at-tasman-bay-near-nelson/BZ4PVY52UJAZPJGKYPAMNPVQAQ/

 

Great outcome. Weather was good and emergency response quick which contributed to the pilot surviving. I understand he was in the water for nearly an hour. 90% of ditchings are survivable. Its just what happens after that which determines the fate of those onboard.

Where did you get those statistics? 90%?

[kiwiaviator]

3 minutes ago, Student Pilot said:

Where did you get those statistics? 90%?

Sorry. I should cite my sources 🙂 BTW 90% is an approximation for the initial survivability.

 

Schick VC, Boyd DD, Hippler C, Hinkelbein J. Survival After Ditching in Motorized Aircraft, 1989-2022. Aerosp Med Hum Perform. 2024 May 1;95(5):254-258. doi: 10.3357/AMHP.6332.2024. PMID: 38715275.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38715275/

 

 

 

 

 

[facthunter]

There's a lot of ways of getting it wrong. Water is Hard at speed. Seaplanes don't cope with swells. Read the PG Taylors Catalina experience. Nev

[rankamateur]

1 hour ago, kiwiaviator said:

Sorry. I should cite my sources 🙂 BTW 90% is an approximation for the initial survivability.

 

Schick VC, Boyd DD, Hippler C, Hinkelbein J. Survival After Ditching in Motorized Aircraft, 1989-2022. Aerosp Med Hum Perform. 2024 May 1;95(5):254-258. doi: 10.3357/AMHP.6332.2024. PMID: 38715275.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38715275/

 

 

 

 

 

Nicely played! Troll proof.

[RossK]

2 hours ago, Student Pilot said:

Where did you get those statistics? 90%?

Also this

https://www.avweb.com/multimedia/votw/miami-accident-dont-be-fearful-of-ditching/

[facthunter]

The more you know about good techniques the better the Job will BE . IF the article is promoting something it can also be a bit biased.. .IF you have to ditch you don't have an option.. I know of a few heavies that didn't turn out so well and some seaplanes don't even make it into the air in slightly rough conditions. IF you manage to get airborne on a swell but sink back down  and hit the next swell firmly you are custard. Same when Landing. The second contact is the heavy one. You may even bury the nose and that's a very sudden stop.  Float planes landing wheel down, crash. Nev

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[Thruster88]

A Thruster carefully prepared with some inflatable mattresses in the wings has been demonstrated to work in very hostile conditions. The only successful ditching in Bass Straight? 

[kiwiaviator]

8 minutes ago, Thruster88 said:

A Thruster carefully prepared with some inflatable mattresses in the wings has been demonstrated to work in very hostile conditions. The only successful ditching in Bass Straight? 

Details please Sounds as intriguing as the bloke who flew his sofa over LAX airspace a few haircuts ago..

[facthunter]

Aerial rubber ducky. It's a bit of fairly wild water. Did a search for a missing light aircraft in a "Borrowed" CASA F 27 with  9 of their observers on board. No sign of it.   we got down fairly LOW. It had a bit of a name as AUSTRALIA's Bermuda Triangle.  Nev