E-190 was shot down Xmas day 2024

[pmccarthy]

 

[onetrack]

Reports are, the Embraer was to land in Grozny, but ended up seriously off course, likely due to Russian GPS jamming. Grozny was under attack from Ukrainian drones at the time, and it appears Russian air defences incorrectly ID-ed the Embraer as another Ukrainian drone, and launched a ground-to-air missile at it, which exploded close to the tail.

The crew reported an in-flight explosion, and this seems likely to have been an oxygen bottle exploding after being hit by shrapnel. You wouldn't want to be airborne anywhere in that region at present, the Russians are more trigger-happy than anyone around. 

[kgwilson]

And the Russians say it hit a flock of birds. How pathetic. They always under estimate the ability of people around with smartphones and cameras to reveal the BS. I imagine they will eventually try to pin this on Ukraine.

[Red]

Damn those Russkies are terrible Liars, they need to get some tips from the Israelis methinks

[skippydiesel]

Hmm! Thats two civilian airliners, in recent times. They must be immensely proud of their military capabilities😈

[Blueadventures]

18 hours ago, kgwilson said:

And the Russians say it hit a flock of birds. How pathetic. They always under estimate the ability of people around with smartphones and cameras to reveal the BS. I imagine they will eventually try to pin this on Ukraine.

Only possible if birds were ducks on opening day of the hunting season🙃

[BurnieM]

Interesting that mainstream media are still saying the downing is from an unknown cause when there are several vids showing straphnel damage to the aircraft.

[kgwilson]

Things are changing all the time and quite a number of media outlets are now saying it was likely shot down by a Russian  missile similar to the one used to down Malaysia MH 17 back in 2014. That one, a Buk M1 also had a proximity detonated warhead. The reports now seem to agree that the GPS was jammed by Russia as there were a lot of Ukraine drones heading their way at the time & that the Russian operators were both poorly trained & pretty trigger happy.

 

I think that Juan Brownes report will be shown to be pretty accurate in the end.

Edited December 27, 2024 by kgwilson

[BurnieM]

Denys has one up too, altho he is a little pro-Ukrainian biased;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQEghJ8UVWk

 

The main issue seems to be that Russia were very slow to shut the airspace.

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by BurnieM

[Student Pilot]

7 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Hmm! Thats two civilian airliners, in recent times. They must be immensely proud of their military capabilities😈

Nearly as efficient as the Americans with Iranian flight 655, they had to use two missiles to down the Airbus with 290 souls on board. 

[Methusala]

War is always a dirty business and we only know that we don't know the whole story. Luckily there were survivors.

[red750]

Here is an article claiming Russia refused permission for the airliner to land, to force it to ditch in the sea.

 

 

Russia tried to make plane crash in sea

[Red]

Its the Daily Mail...must be true🤣