Garfly Posted December 28, 2024 Author Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thruster88 said: Turbotech is claiming cruise fuel consumption of 20lph @50% oof 141 hp. If true, that is very close to the 100hp rotax 912 @75% . We know the rotax burns 18lph at that power setting. https://www.turbotech-aero.com/solutions/ Yeah, one Gogetair dealer in Europe (A4 Aviation) claim to be looking at a cruise efficiency for the G750TP between 15 and 18 LPH - of cheaper Jet A1. (see YT vid below at 01:30) And with a 3,000 hr TBO they hope to whittle down the ICE price advantage over the service life. Although some argue that in typical GA use a turbine could run out of cycles well before TBO hours. Others reckon that in its 2+2 Mosaic config it could give Cirrus a run for its money in the US market. In any case, it seems Gogetair don't envisage their G750TP operating above 20,000' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7My16WEnaPY "... the G750TP combines the advantages of a gas turbine engine – smooth, vibration-free flight, and reliability – with impressively low fuel consumption and a long 3,000-hour TBO." A4Aviation News - A4 Aviation WWW.A4AVIATION.COM Latest news articles and updates from A4Aviation Edited December 28, 2024 by Garfly
rgmwa Posted December 28, 2024 Posted December 28, 2024 Jet A1 isn't available at most airfields where you might want to operate that type of aircraft, so that could limit sales even if you could afford to buy one.
Garfly Posted December 28, 2024 Author Posted December 28, 2024 Yes, although they say it can also run on many types of fuel. (Presumably not mixed at will, though.) And I think there are parts of the world where Avgas is much harder to find than Jet A1 is. But hey, those are first world problems we won't have to face. ;- ) 1
facthunter Posted December 29, 2024 Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) Turbines all go better at higher levels and you need a complicated prop as well. A flamed out turbine can have drag far in excess of it's rated thrust so feathering is essential. Economy relates to Pressure ratio and high turbine temps. An overtemp usually means a failure. Small turbines must rev at crazy RPM's to work so require a precision reduction gearing and the smaller ones would generally be limited to centrifugal compressors as the RR Dart was for flow stability. Nev Edited December 29, 2024 by facthunter spelling
Thruster88 Posted December 29, 2024 Posted December 29, 2024 The TP-R90 looks very simple, one compressor and one power turbine, essentially the same as a turbocharger. Heat exchanger at rear. Propeller from Airmaster NZ, they have feather capabilities. 1 1
facthunter Posted December 29, 2024 Posted December 29, 2024 Not giving away much detail there. Simple schematic. Nev 1
skippydiesel Posted December 29, 2024 Posted December 29, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 5:49 PM, Blueadventures said: Foxbats can be $240k and $120k second hand, info from Foxbat about 3 weeks ago. I forget the price of a new Jab 230 but over $150k from memory. Factory built Nynja is about $135k (includes freight and duty) Prices are getting up there. Just my opinion: Foxbat's are grossly overpriced, for what is a very ordinary aircraft. Many others with similar characteristics, can be had a much lower price, new or preloved. Once again a triumph of marketing over reality. 😈 1
Garfly Posted Wednesday at 01:43 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 01:43 AM It seems this is the fuel consumption range Turbotech claims: 109hp/140hp/160hp 19l/h / 20l/h / 21l/h eco cruise 24l/h / 32l/h / 35l/h 75% power 1
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