wooden props

[facthunter]

Would that stand a fact check? Nev

[BrendAn]

3 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Would that stand a fact check? Nev

Don't know but the article said we have 44 more laws than china. 

The law and order crisis in Victoria would certainly be true. Where else can you commit 60 serious crimes and get let out on bail the same day.

2 people killed  in a family brawl at a 1 year Olds birthday party ,2 days ago. Melbourne is out of control.

[BrendAn]

On 16/01/2025 at 4:09 PM, Thruster88 said:

The only legal wood prop would be the one that was initially fitted. A wood prop by another manufacturer would require a maarup. RAAus already have a maruup for a bolly on the Gazelle. 

Found out the prop maker has gone out of business years ago so doing the marap for a bolly 3 blade.

[facthunter]

I'd rather have the way laws are done here than under Benito Chrisafulli in Qld. United nations  are concerned about that. , Doesn't do our International Reputation much good... Your last line. Just HOW could THAT have been prevented? I shudder to think what kind of action could be proposed. Nev

[facthunter]

Making a wooden prop is not rocket science. Why should WE have to BUY stuff when we can make it. If you are doing it for yourself you might even do better job?. Wasn't making stuff and maintaining it your self, the Original Aim of this movement? Nev.

[BrendAn]

1 minute ago, facthunter said:

I'd rather have the way laws are done here than under Benito Chrisafulli in Qld. United nations  are concerned about that. , Doesn't do our International Reputation much good... Your last line. Just HOW could THAT have been prevented? I shudder to think what kind of action could be proposed. Nev

My uncle was high up in vicpol. Retired now but he says they could all see it coming  with courts changing to a mentality of the criminals wellbeing  and rights being more important than the victims.

Andrews government and puppet Jacinta have buried their heads in the sand for 15 years while shops are torched daily, people woken up and bashed in the middle of the night.  I could rant about this topic all day but we are on the wrong forum for it.

[BrendAn]

3 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Making a wooden prop is not rocket science. Why should WE have to BUY stuff when we can make it. If you are doing it for yourself you might even do better job?. Wasn't making stuff and maintaining it your self, the Original Aim of this movement? Nev.

Gazelles are certified so I would imagine it would be an extremely hard process to do that. But I agree with you.

[facthunter]

The torched shops are Mainly tobacco shops and in the past anti Chinese., particularly in Perth. It's bad to want a clampdown and harsh laws when the causes  are complex. Police action is often MORE forceful  than Justified too . Qld and the NT have gone on LAW and Order promises to increase the already harshest Laws in the Country with populist TOUGH as low as age 10. The problems are social ones of neglect and foetal alcohol syndrome etc and will make them worse and shape/ruin their whole lives at enormous cost to the community. The MEDIA beats it up and people think there is an easy fix and want it.. There IS NO easy fix. Nev

[facthunter]

We continue the trend started by the complete disaster (for us) ex RAAF and Airline management, entity, John McCormick who would not have a bar of the way things were done in the U/L movement at the time. At the time he arrived we were up amongst the most progressive in the world. He Couldn't (Or wouldn't) understand or tolerate it. We have gone downhill since particularly in the increasing paperwork and associated confusion and  cost.  IF you wish to build restore  or alter a plane GO GA (VH) Experimental.  Nev

[turboplanner]

40 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

My uncle was high up in vicpol. Retired now but he says they could all see it coming  with courts changing to a mentality of the criminals wellbeing  and rights being more important than the victims.

Andrews government and puppet Jacinta have buried their heads in the sand for 15 years while shops are torched daily, people woken up and bashed in the middle of the night.  I could rant about this topic all day but we are on the wrong forum for it.

Was that Damien Christensen, the Geelong footballer?

[facthunter]

John McCormick was Director of Aviation  Safety from Mar 2009 to 39Aug 2014.  Nev

[turboplanner]

46 minutes ago, facthunter said:

We continue the trend started by the complete disaster (for us) ex RAAF and Airline management, entity, John McCormick who would not have a bar of the way things were done in the U/L movement at the time. At the time he arrived we were up amongst the most progressive in the world. He Couldn't (Or wouldn't) understand or tolerate it. We have gone downhill since particularly in the increasing paperwork and associated confusion and  cost.  IF you wish to build restore  or alter a plane GO GA (VH) Experimental.  Nev

Well VH Experimental is totally in the clutches of the John McCormacks whereas under CASR Part 149, RAA  is part of the Self Administering Organisations.

 

Self Administering Organisations as at January 2025

Australian Parachute Federation

Australian Sport Rotorcraft Association

Australian Warbird Association Ltd

Gliding Federation of Australia

Recreational Aviation of Australia

•      Ultralight
•      Recreational
•      Weight-shift Microlight
•      Light Sort Aircraft

Sports Aviation Federation of Australia

•      Hang gliding
•      Paragliding
•      Weight-shift Microlights

The members of each of these bodies can draft or redraft their Constitutions, so they self-administer their organisations and take direct responsibility for any issues. CASA does issue broad guidelines.

 

The part that is sometimes forgotten is that all of these people fly in CASA, and Airservices airspace so must also learn and comply with CASA and Airservices safety regulations

 

I would agree that CASA and Airservices need to simplify the way they communicate these regulations.

 

I broke down the Recreational Aviation Australia and Sports Aviation Federation of Australia sections to show how some activites migrate from one organisation to another or can be duplicated.

 

Re your comment on paperwork, confusion, cost, these are things that Members need to act on at regullar meetings or change the Constitution to ensure these things are addressed and there are pathways to do this other than just barking at the Government which is now at arms length from these self-administering organizations, so unlikely to step in.

 

SAFA is by far doing the best job of promoting to the general pubic in my opinion.

Edited 2 hours ago by turboplanner

[spacesailor]

My aircraft is grounded ! .

How  much safer does CASA need it , to be safe .

spacesailor

[turboplanner]

1 minute ago, spacesailor said:

My aircraft is grounded ! .

How  much safer does CASA need it , to be safe .

spacesailor

You were given good advice on where it can be fitted in, so no point in repeatedly telling us you can't fly it. 

[BrendAn]

57 minutes ago, turboplanner said:

Was that Damien Christensen, the Geelong footballer?

No

[facthunter]

The view above I expressed is a widely held view amongst Active aviators. NOT what COULD happen IF things get changed.  Many of us have waited years HOPING and contributing.

     By the way, who's submitting to the current survey by CASA on Radio Use? This is one you should input.

     Mc Cormick left in 2014.. 11 years ago..

  Warbirds are under VH exp.. Nev

Edited 2 hours ago by facthunter

[turboplanner]

4 minutes ago, facthunter said:

 

   

  Warbirds are under VH exp.. Nev

Not as of this morning according to CASA.

[facthunter]

WHAT are they under then.? News to me.   Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

The torched shops are Mainly tobacco shops and in the past anti Chinese., particularly in Perth. It's bad to want a clampdown and harsh laws when the causes  are complex. Police action is often MORE forceful  than Justified too . Qld and the NT have gone on LAW and Order promises to increase the already harshest Laws in the Country with populist TOUGH as low as age 10. The problems are social ones of neglect and foetal alcohol syndrome etc and will make them worse and shape/ruin their whole lives at enormous cost to the community. The MEDIA beats it up and people think there is an easy fix and want it.. There IS NO easy fix. Nev

What about all the torched and shot up houses. That poor girl that died the other night because scum torched the house she was looking  after for her brother. .

The do gooder attitude has caused a lot of this . It started with schools abolishing corporal punishment.

When we were young we were shit scared of cops now they get laughed at and attacked. School teachers are leaving the profession because of the violence and abuse by students and their parents. But don't worry about that nev. 

[facthunter]

Everyone wants something  done. I just don't believe coppers giving people a harder time and locking more people up is the answer. Where and When has it ever been the ANSWER? Don't accuse ME of not worrying about it. Brendan. Thats complete BS. Your solution is too simplistic Ineffective and even worse damaging, and too costly. It's one of Dutton's quick fixes too already being applied in the NT and Qld and soundly condemned by Human rights people and the United nations and shaming us on the world stage. 10 year olds have LESS rights there than adults do. . IsTHAT OK?  Nev

Edited 2 hours ago by facthunter

[skippydiesel]

4 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

What about all the torched and shot up houses. That poor girl that died the other night because scum torched the house she was looking  after for her brother. .

The do gooder attitude has caused a lot of this . It started with schools abolishing corporal punishment.

When we were young we were shit scared of cops now they get laughed at and attacked. School teachers are leaving the profession because of the violence and abuse by students and their parents. But don't worry about that nev. 

Be very careful what you wish for - flogings may have worked for  a few, for others it just entrenched injustice. Giving the power to administer corporal punishment, to  a group of people without adequate checks balances on their mental state/training, is in itself, a crime. To my mind very similar to having general duties/highway patrol cops armed - way too easy to justify summary executions without good cause = State sanctioned crimes. As long as it happens to those with little / no voice we just shrug and let it happen.😈

[turboplanner]

14 minutes ago, facthunter said:

WHAT are they under then.? News to me.   Nev

Go back a few posts to where I quoted you, and spent the time going onto the CASA site and transcribed all of the Self Administering Organisations and you will see it listed there.

[facthunter]

You entirely Missed my Point there. (as unfortunately. you often do.) .  I don't want to live in YOUR Aviation world, turbs. Warbirds have an emerging world of pain with costs and safety of old components. There was a change of the regulations  with warbirds Instigated by Darren Chester about 10 years ago so some Pollies have a try.  They have an easy access website and a low cost joining option. IF you're interested support them. HARS gets contributions and many staff there work for free. All face high costs trying to preserve these ties with  Aviations past.  Nev

[turboplanner]

16 minutes ago, facthunter said:

You entirely Missed my Point there. (as unfortunately. you often do.) .  I don't want to live in YOUR Aviation world, turbs. Warbirds have an emerging world of pain with costs and safety of old components. There was a change of the regulations  with warbirds Instigated by Darren Chester about 10 years ago so some Pollies have a try.  They have an easy access website and a low cost joining option. IF you're interested support them. HARS gets contributions and many staff there work for free. All face high costs trying to preserve these ties with  Aviations past.  Nev

I wasn't looking for any point, I was correcting an error.

 

The Australian Warbird Association Ltd, 

under CASR Part 149,  is part of the Self Administering Organisations.

[BrendAn]

49 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Everyone wants something  done. I just don't believe coppers giving people a harder time and locking more people up is the answer. Where and When has it ever been the ANSWER? Don't accuse ME of not worrying about it. Brendan. Thats complete BS. Your solution is too simplistic Ineffective and even worse damaging, and too costly. It's one of Dutton's quick fixes too already being applied in the NT and Qld and soundly condemned by Human rights people and the United nations and shaming us on the world stage. 10 year olds have LESS rights there than adults do. . IsTHAT OK?  Nev

saying there is no quick fix means nothing gets done.  we need to change bail laws. jails have to be places people don't want to go to.

not somewhere to catch up with mates .   tobacco taxs should be returned to previous levels. if cigarettes cost no more than chop chop the tobacco war would stop overnight. all those taxes do is incite crime and  take food off the table in low income households. i have seen it myself around here. the do gooder judges need to be sacked and get some decent people in there.