I Am A Member? But Really I Am A Shareholder?

[turboplanner]

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Edited Tuesday at 11:31 PM by turboplanner

[turboplanner]

6 minutes ago, T510 said:

If a plane is unregistered how does RAAus administer it?

 

The RAAus Flight Ops manual says their only form of enforcement is to suspend or apply a variation to a licence and they need to inform CASA.

 

Can't take a licence off someone who doesn't have one and is flying an unregistered plane

 

 

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I actually posted a photo of the documents and briefly explained things. I'm not going to publish any details.

[facthunter]

In a group I see regularly I learn   Today  it seems Temora is going defunct for a similar reason.  They have had to move away from  VH EXP   for Warbirds.   Nev

[jackc]

Recently I have fielded a flurry of phone calls that tell me, that under the impending circumstance we are now been subject to, the pathway exists to transfer to VH rego, do the Class 5 medical (that RAAus won’t recognise) go RPL and do Maintenance under SAAA.

Since I have been in SAAA for 4 years, I don’t have to join.

Apparently there will be a lot of discussion, at their Wentworth Fly In. 

[PureCaboose]

Am I reading it wrong that I have to be the builder under SAAA to do my maintenance?

 

[facthunter]

I was with them for MANY years but they seem to implode now and again..   I'd suggest RAAus is still needed. .Nev

[jackc]

50 minutes ago, PureCaboose said:

Am I reading it wrong that I have to be the builder under SAAA to do my maintenance?

 

Not anymore 👍

[T510]

I just enquired with SAAA, you can not maintain a VH registered amateur built aircraft unless you where the builder or you have built an essentially similar aircraft.

 

If CASA part 43 regulations get up you would be able to.

[jackc]

I am not a member? I am not a shareholder?  RAAus CEO says I am a STAKEHOLDER in an email she sent me.  Go figure…….

[facthunter]

That could be ONE interpretation. I wonder what he LEGAL interpretation  of THAT is.?  I looked it up. Quite nebulous. You are entitled to Be told the Limits of your liability as a Member.  Nev

Edited 15 hours ago by facthunter

[jackc]

She sent me a copy of the Constitution, too. 

[facthunter]

Was  that Helpful?  It's not too big a hope that Members do feel they have a stake in the RAAus continuing to exist. . IF it doesn't what's next?  Warbirds are in a similar position regarding the extent of possible liability. IF it's too high It's just NOT affordable, by Normal people.  Nev

[jackc]

Well I asked for an update on the current standing of the organisation, given the outcome of the Coroners report on th Jabiru crash near Mt Beauty.?

I was told some information should be forthcoming soon.

Something has to give, I would allege that some people in the RAA hierarchy past and present stand to possibly lose their houses, to cover increasing legal charges. 
I am told by several in phone calls I have received, Ita a looming horror story, if the potential outcome is correct.  The Coroner has apparently instructed the DPP to lay charges.

Sad days ahead if all this is correct 🤢 

[turboplanner]

34 minutes ago, jackc said:

I am not a member? I am not a shareholder?  RAAus CEO says I am a STAKEHOLDER in an email she sent me.  Go figure…….

Stakeholder in the Gen Y/Gen Z word for shareholder where they're not sure just as "reach out" is a BS word for Emailing or phoning someone.

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, jackc said:

She sent me a copy of the Constitution, too. 

its all in your member portal.  lots of info there.

[Love to fly]

1 hour ago, jackc said:

The Coroner has apparently instructed the DPP to lay charges.

Sad days ahead if all this is correct 🤢 

The Coroner made a referral to the DPP. It's stated in his report. He didn't make an instruction to the DPP because this isn't something a Coroner does. 🤦‍♂️ 

[jackc]

38 minutes ago, Love to fly said:

The Coroner made a referral to the DPP. It's stated in his report. He didn't make an instruction to the DPP because this isn't something a Coroner does. 🤦‍♂️ 

That interpretation was given to me, that it WILL happen and organisations are planning for it to happen. 

[Love to fly]

5 minutes ago, jackc said:

That interpretation was given to me, that it WILL happen and organisations are planning for it to happen. 

You stated it was an instruction. Now its an interpretation. 🤦‍♂️ 

[jackc]

Well we wait and see what happens next

[Red]

12 hours ago, jackc said:

I am not a member? I am not a shareholder?  RAAus CEO says I am a STAKEHOLDER in an email she sent me.  Go figure…….

"Stakeholder", is just one of those cover-all terms that basically means anyone who has an interest in or is a user of the service/operation/investment etc.

It's deliberately vague business/organisation speak

Edited 3 hours ago by Red