I Am A Member? But Really I Am A Shareholder?

[Love to fly]

"People are not understanding what they are hearing." Yep. Definitely applies to some. 🤷‍♂️ And some seem to have read news reports and be basing their comments on these. The Coroner's Findings are readily available, reattached here, but... 

COR 2022 005430 Form 37-Finding into Death Following Inquest_Signed.pdf

[jackc]

18 hours ago, Love to fly said:

The Coroner made a referral to the DPP. It's stated in his report. He didn't make an instruction to the DPP because this isn't something a Coroner does. 🤦‍♂️ 

But there ARE battle plans being made by organisations who know more than us.

Given existing imposed legal costs, money has to be found, that people don’t have.

Because the actions of some will invalidate any insurance policies, being paid out. 
Regardless of DPP actions, some people will suffer major loss, then comes civil action possibilities, too. 
Either way, it’s a sad day for RAAus…….

[facthunter]

Coronial Inquests are NOT places where people should be, or have to be, using Lawyers  Nev

[jackc]

19 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Coronial Inquests are NOT places where people should be, or have to be, using Lawyers  Nev

There is never any fairness or honesty in any part of the legal system in Australia. 
It’s all about money and how much it costs. 
Human Beings, behaving at their finest………

[facthunter]

You won't achieve Justice often and perhaps not even the proper application of the LAW. The Richest Lawyers work for the CROOKS. Nev

[Love to fly]

54 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Coronial Inquests are NOT places where people should be, or have to be, using Lawyers  Nev

Guessing this memo got missed. RAAUS definitely had lawyers there. 

[jackc]

47 minutes ago, Love to fly said:

Guessing this memo got missed. RAAUS definitely had lawyers there. 

The bill so far is $400,000 and climbing 🤢

[turboplanner]

2 hours ago, jackc said:

The bill so far is $400,000 and climbing 🤢

That doesn't mean a thing.

[jackc]

Just now, turboplanner said:

That doesn't mean a thing.

Does not to you, but it will to others 🤢

[turboplanner]

I think we've all been through this before.

[onetrack]

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Because the actions of some will invalidate any insurance policies, being paid out.

Not necessarily a true and correct statement. Public Liability insurance covers negligence of the policy holder. Insurance payouts may be refused, only if criminal acts are found to have occurred, or false declarations were made by the policy holder when the policy was issued.

[jackc]

Alleged withholding of evidence or telling lies to a Coronial Inquest is viewed very seriously, and an insurance company could invalidate a policy covering the organisation involved, and the people in it. 

[onetrack]

You're confusing insurance policies with a coronial inquiry. Telling lies to a coroner does not affect insurance payouts. The original mistake was issuing an RPC against CASA requirements. That was not a criminal act in itself, it was misinterpretation or error, which is covered under the policy holders insurance. The problems started when a cover-up was initiated to hide the error or misinterpretation of the regulations.

 

Edited Sunday at 09:47 AM by onetrack

[jackc]

Different to what a Lawyer said to me, personal friend on a phone call.

So  I will just hurry up, and wait 😁

[Roundsounds]

On 6/2/2025 at 12:20 PM, facthunter said:

Records of the minutes  must be retained by LAW, but it's very inhibiting to make them ALL public. It's not hard to envision  the problems. Your liability as a  member seems to be limited to ONE Dollar. OFFICE bearers have a greater exposure to risk and they have to be covered also. It's also a non profit Organisation, which is interesting.  Nev

It will be interesting to see what happens to the various office bearers over time. I’m not sure whether you’ve read the Coroner’s report? It seems some actions by office bearers were not in accordance with documented procedures. The issues of concern to the Coroner relate to action / (inaction?) once the question of validity of the pilot’s RPC came to light within the organisation. 

[jackc]

Regardless of who says what, the  buck will stop at the end of it all, with whatever happens. Until then we can all cast our opinions, for what they are worth, in the  meantime, right or wrong…….

[jackc]

18 minutes ago, Roundsounds said:

It will be interesting to see what happens to the various office bearers over time. I’m not sure whether you’ve read the Coroner’s report? It seems some actions by office bearers were not in accordance with documented procedures. The issues of concern to the Coroner relate to action / (inaction?) once the question of validity of the pilot’s RPC came to light within the organisation. 

Wonder what effect that has, on the  RAA insurance policy? 

[facthunter]

It's informative to look up what the Purpose of a Coronial Inquest is.   It's quite specific.  Also what qualifications a Coroner must have. Nev

[jackc]

We all stand to learn……