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Expanded airspace access for sports and rec pilots

Sports and recreational pilots will get expanded access to controlled airspace following industry consultation and detailed engagement with approved self-administering aviation organisations (ASAOs).

A summary of consultation was published in December and we're now working through the feedback to ensure we can implement this General Aviation Workplan initiative safely for all airspace users.

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I’m not holding my breath.  End of 2025 for CASA and then add the usual delays, deferrals, need for RAAus training manual updates, endorsements, lack of instructors, blah, blah.

 

Im guessing maybe late 2027 ??

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Western Sydney International opens December 2026.

Ideally we should have had approvals and training manuals ready 2 years before that.

 

Pre Dec 26 we will have a complete re-arrangement of Sydney metro airspace.

Controlled Airspace endorsements available only 6 (or even 12) months before hand will be a nightmare with current numbers of instructors available.

 

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Would be nice if we could have something like this. Never happen in Australia. 

 

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We do have something like that, Victor 1 but I always get nervous for incoming jets since I fly under them with about 500ft seperation. Sometimes I orbit sometimes I assume the wake turbulence hasn't arrived depending where the plane is. 

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The VFR routes suck IMHO. They are typically any combination of narrow, near mountains, low level and over water.

What they have over Avalon is ideal.  A nice chunk of Class E, high above the field out of the way - too easy.

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A lot of CTA is above tiger country And in icing conditions in winter.. Your track keeping and ETA's have to be on the ball also and you need a clearance to vary anything.  Nev

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6 minutes ago, facthunter said:

A lot of CTA is above tiger country And in icing conditions in winter.. Your track keeping and ETA's have to be on the ball also and you need a clearance to vary anything.  Nev

I think you mean the opposite. A lot of CTA is not over tiger country and we are forced to go around through tiger country like Newcastle, Coffs Harbour, various parts of Gold Coast. Blue Mountains we can’t fly high closer to Sydney and can get caught it turbulence so I guess that is tiger country. Going South of Sydney and if Nowra is active we have to go around the long way.

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1 hour ago, facthunter said:

No.  I meant what I wrote

If you look at a chart you can see it's not true. Lack of access to CTA forces you lower over tiger country. There's plenty of routes where through CTA and higher altitude would be safer. Suggesting the opposite is rubbish.

 

But the problem in Australia is that you're likely to get "Clearance not available" even if you have the qualifications.

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I'm familiar with all those places you mention and how unsatisfactory and dangerous those Lanes  can be.  Flying in CTA also has it's problems. Better transit zones are what is needed.. and expect better performing radios and procedures to be required in any case,.  Nev

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I’m not qualified.
If I was looking for a VFR lane for students to a new training area located somewhere well south of Camden, (toward Mittagong) I would follow the train line from Bankstown to Picton. Yes, that track has warts on it too, like being perilously close to the Holsworthy restricted area, meat bombers at Wilton and a current ceiling of 2500, but good options don’t exist. The  Hume motorway may be an alternative which roughly follows the same corridor to Wilton.

Would this training area transit be viable for schools at Bankstown - most likely not.

 

These options also still don’t  solve the east/west route to get over the mountains. That would require a VFR lane over the top of WSI, similar to how others have suggested major airports operate in the US.  Indeed you can currently get clearance over the top of Williamtown on the right day.

 

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