I gotta get me one of these ;-)

[Jerry_Atrick]

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

er.. maybe I will wait till it matures

 

[aro]

The engine was probably the most mature part!

[onetrack]

It's interesting watching these squillionaires with ADHD, operate at double the speed of anyone else, and burning up money at mind-boggling levels - while they also generate mind-boggling amounts of money from running 10 businesses at once.

I liken them to 100W, 240V light globes running at 400V. They produce a fantastic and incredible amount of light, before they rapidly burn out, long before a normal lifespan. Many ADHD sufferers have short lives, due to their love of extreme risk-taking, and their supremely overconfident natures. 

[facthunter]

If you get LOST in a fast plane you've covered a lot of ground by the time you realise it. You have to be AHEAD of the Plane. ALWAYS. It also FEELS turbulence a lot harder.  Don't own a plane to impress others. You'll run out of MONEY doing it.

  ADHD sufferers.( Incl. ME)  aren't ALL as you describe. Nev

[onetrack]

Nev, you mean you haven't become a squillionaire, and don't run 10 businesses at once? You're doing it all wrong, then. 😄 Maybe you need your own YooToob channel? 😄 

 

[facthunter]

Yes I realise I've done it all wrong. I have Principles, and seek to find out what's really going on and that's definitely a  Handicap.. Having an addiction for Aeroplanes hasn't helped either.   Nev. 

[BrendAn]

8 hours ago, onetrack said:

It's interesting watching these squillionaires with ADHD, operate at double the speed of anyone else, and burning up money at mind-boggling levels - while they also generate mind-boggling amounts of money from running 10 businesses at once.

I liken them to 100W, 240V light globes running at 400V. They produce a fantastic and incredible amount of light, before they rapidly burn out, long before a normal lifespan. Many ADHD sufferers have short lives, due to their love of extreme risk-taking, and their supremely overconfident natures. 

if you followed mike patey and his brothers videos you might realise how clever they are. and they have said they grew up poor and all they have now can disappear tomorrow'

very grounded and down to earth. 

[onetrack]

Oh, I've no doubt they're very clever, just as the worlds greatest code breaker, Alan Turing, was brilliant beyond belief. These peoples brains work differently to normal peoples brains. But they're still ADHD sufferers, and often have major social skills dislocation, and they can also become very depressed, very quickly. Without knowing anything about Mike Patey, I concluded he had ADHD, within 5 mins of coming across one of his videos.

 

Edited yesterday at 09:11 AM by onetrack

[Litespeed]

I would not think that Alan Turing just had ADHD to any significant degree but he was rather a high functioning Autistic ie he was on the spectrum.

 

This often presents as ADHD like symptoms but that is only part of been on the spectrum, their brain is wired differently and ranges from those unable to speak to the socially awkward geniuses.

 

Alan would be called a Savant.

 

Unfortunately he was also a Gay man when that meant jail or worse. Societies attitude particularly some asshole police persecuted him.

His career destroyed and criminalised he suicided.

[sfGnome]

1 minute ago, Litespeed said:

their brain is wired differently and ranges from those unable to speak to the socially awkward geniuses.

Oh, I’m a socially awkward genius (except for the ‘genius’ bit… 😛). 

[BrendAn]

53 minutes ago, onetrack said:

Oh, I've no doubt they're very clever, just as the worlds greatest code breaker, Alan Turing, was brilliant beyond belief. These peoples brains work differently to normal peoples brains. But they're still ADHD sufferers, and often have major social skills dislocation, and they can also become very depressed, very quickly. Without knowing anything about Mike Patey, I concluded he had ADHD, within 5 mins of coming across one of his videos.

 

Are you a doctor or psychologist .

Just because people are driven and work hard does not mean they have adhd.

Edited yesterday at 10:03 AM by BrendAn

[onetrack]

Nope, no doctor or psych qualifications, just a long lifetime (I'm 76 shortly) of interaction with tens of thousands of people, employing hundreds of people, and making a lifetime study of personality traits and features, and judging their strong and weak personality points, and individual skill sets.

However, I reckon that the majority of "driven" personalities who work excessively long hours, are highly obsessive, who aim for lofty and extremely powerful positions, who gain multiple numbers of high qualifications, and who often have somewhat deficient interpersonal skills, are "on the spectrum".

[onetrack]

Both Mike and his brother Mark Patey have been diagnosed with ADHD (or ADD), and Mark has even written a book about how they deal with it.

 

Interestingly, the book is full of spelling errors and mistakes in grammar, which is typical of people who are always working at super-speeds.

 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23516836-addicts-or-millionaires-the-gift-and-curse-of-adhd

 

https://add.org/high-functioning-adhd/#:~:text=Many ADHDers are high achievers,their (often undiagnosed) ADHD.

 

To me, this is a very good description of ADHD - "ADHD Doesn’t Define Your Success, and Success Doesn’t Define Your Diagnosis".

 

Edited yesterday at 01:29 PM by onetrack

[facthunter]

We've switched from PTSD to ADHD. TS means  Post TRAUMA STRESS.  NOTHING Generic or "Spectrum" about that.  Nev

[onetrack]

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ADHD sufferers.( Incl. ME)  aren't ALL as you describe. Nev

Nev, you wrote the above - I didn't switch to a discussion about PTSD. However, I'd have to opine, they're both neurological disorders. My constant in this thread is a discussion around the performance and behaviours of people on the Autism spectrum, and how so many "high flyers" suffer from Autism disorders. Those disorders can range from Aspergers to full-blown non-verbal Autism, and a lot of other behaviours in between, such as Compulsive Obsessive Disorder.

 

A lot of "high-flyers" and high achievers are quite obsessive, but many manage their afflictions quite well. I'd have to say the problems likely start when the medical fraternity starts to become involved, and sufferers are placed on medication to control their symptoms, which are starting to affect their daily performance.

The Americans are good at finding a pill for every affliction, and Australia is rapidly heading down the same path. As we all know, medications and flying are strictly controlled, and I occasionally wonder if the Pateys are on some form of medication.

[facthunter]

What are Pateys? Aspergers has been removed from the List. There's all sorts of Conditions. Panic attacks Claustrophobia, Motion sickness. arachnophobia (spiders) Fear of Heights .Yes you Point out I also got it wrong (Less HASTE More SPEED) Mine's what GON has (I think) A product of what he's been through. Common with People who have been in War situations. Nev

[onetrack]

Mike and Mark Patey are the two brothers behind the videos. They possess brilliant minds, they operate at warp speed, and they also run a number of businesses, and are multi-millionaires.

[BrendAn]

55 minutes ago, facthunter said:

We've switched from PTSD to ADHD. TS means  Post TRAUMA STRESS.  NOTHING Generic or "Spectrum" about that.  Nev

And sometimes we discuss aircraft and flying

[facthunter]

I do too, But is anyone really Interested anymore?  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Well, yeah...we are still interested.

 

Not quite the response I was expecting, but it taught me I need to learn to read people - I wold not cottoned onto them having ADHD, ADD,  autism, or the like.

 

I thought it was a cool video of making one heck of a plane.

 

 

[BrendAn]

8 hours ago, onetrack said:

Mike and Mark Patey are the two brothers behind the videos. They possess brilliant minds, they operate at warp speed, and they also run a number of businesses, and are multi-millionaires.

I guess you would also know that Mike's wife Chandra patey is one of the moderators on bush flyers down under group.