CAMPING

[skippydiesel]

Some very attractive sounding fly-ins coming up.

 

In at least one case, considering 3-4 nights away . Once at an event can probably rely on sufficient food being available but what of the camping on way & back?

 

I like to make a nice cup of tea/coffee as the mood takes me, so  just wondering what are peoples thoughts about carrying a small lightweight camping  stove?

 

• Gas
• Liquid
• Neither

😈

 

 

[BurnieM]

You need a Jetboil Flash

 

[Blueadventures]

I carry and use this set.  Dear but good quality of the kit and metho bottle.  Add a little water to the metho in the stove (don't ask why just what the alpine people do)  Kit weighs a kilo and always in the cargo hold.

 

Added info can buy cheaper similar items; these are priced like Rotax parts, Leatherman tools ASIC cards etc.🙃

[Moneybox]

I think the hiking shops like Kathmandu would give you a fair range of light weight camping gear. I hiked the six day Overland Track in Tassie and got my sleeping bag, tent, mattress, food and clothes into a 17kg backpack. That was perhaps 15 years back so the range of gear is most likely a lot better now.

[skippydiesel]

So the Jetboil uses a compressed gas & the Trangia flammable liquid.

 

Are there any safety considerations in taking these to 10,000ft?😈

[Blueadventures]

33 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

So the Jetboil uses a compressed gas & the Trangia flammable liquid.

 

Are there any safety considerations in taking these to 10,000ft?😈

Trangia uses Metho so no different to your unleaded, I carry it in their approved container.  Just also need matches.  Many up here use them.

 

One mate had a stove burner that ran on petrol so he would use Avgas.  Can't remember all the detail of it.  It needed a service, and I looked for one of that type 9 years ago and settled for the metho burner type with its cup and pots.

[facthunter]

The Metho burner you speak of would be very light and safe but needs shielding from the Wind. Nev

[onetrack]

The old military standby of solid fuel works for small cooking/water heating jobs. The one in the first link is hexamine-based, there's another "toxin-free" U.K.-made variety called Firedragon solid fuel, but it's difficult to source locally, and seemingly quite expensive.

 

https://www.survivalsupplies.com.au/solid-fuel-tablets-24-pack

 

You team the solid fuel with one of these stoves, and you have very little weight to carry, but a lot of heating capacity.

 

https://www.survivalsupplies.com.au/firedragon-multi-fuel-cooker?srsltid=AfmBOopl5U3lmF9kX52h_kxg-GXAe1caUsLsYMNyxGwAfQQ4gLCHGIkr

 

Firedragon solid fuel - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256707714421

[Blueadventures]

16 minutes ago, facthunter said:

The Metho burner you speak of would be very light and safe but needs shielding from the Wind. Nev

One of the base pieces has a series of holes in the body to allow ventilation and shelter from the wind. The Trangia kit is complete for use in the elements.  Worth the money.

Our groups visit to the beach catchups use them for the boiling water for tea and coffee.

[Garfly]

 

Maybe a solid fuel stove like this?

 

This guy reckons you can also use alcohol fuel with it at a pinch.

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 11:51 PM by Garfly

[Arron25]

6 minutes ago, Garfly said:

 

Maybe a solid fuel stove like this?

 

 

 

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[onetrack]

Garfly - Well, there's a stove that is as basic as they come! But he's burning a solid fuel tablet on ground littered with pine needles!! A handful of pine needles and a match, and you probably have as much heat energy as a solid fuel tablet!

 

Unless you location is quite wet, a handful of dry sticks of eucalypt or native vegetation origin can produce a LOT of heat. There are several species of native vegetation, including a couple of acacias, all nicknamed "kerosene bush", these burn green, just like they've been doused in petrol!

[Blueadventures]

7 minutes ago, Garfly said:

 

Maybe a solid fuel stove like this?

 

This guy reckons you can also use alcohol fuel with it at a pinch.

 

 

 

They have down sides, left with some rubbish to bring home, got o burn it out and have a supply of tablets.  I like the metho one as when finished, place lid on burner, flame goes out when cooled pour unused metho back into container.  Metho is sold every where so easily topped up when used.

[skippydiesel]

To digress a little;

 

Looking at the Naturehike Cloud-up Pro 2 man tent - pops up quite a bit in reviews (all good). A but vague on weight however about 1.8 kg  and 4000 mm rain resistant.

 

Thinking of buying their sleeping mat . 54 kg & bag .54 kg

 

Total 2.88kg 😈

[BurnieM]

Check the tent is long enough. Touching the end will get your sleeping bag wet from condensation. Or take a rubbish bag.

Definitely need an insulating sleeping mat if you are camping anywhere cold. You lose more heat thru the ground than the air.

 

Jetboil is a one trick pony but it boils water faster than any other stove type.

 

Edited Saturday at 12:30 AM by BurnieM

[Blueadventures]

My preference is this style of tent with the awning part out the front.  That way at nigh you can put chair under the cover and foot ware (both outside the tent but under the zipped up awning so don't get wet with dew or rain.  The ents that don't have an awning allow rain to enter any time your getting in or out. I won't buy a tent without an awning, I do allot of camping.

 

I did about 9 years ago buy the light tent from the site shop ($14.95 and 1.8kg from memory), the zip system did not come together (meet when closed) and that allows bugs to enter; especially centipedes  (they bite hard, from experience).  I was disappointed with the zipper system, the next day put it in the rubbish bin at the site.  Provided nice feedback to Ian as in my opinion not suitable.

 

I advise all persons camping to always zip entry fully closed to keep bugs and snakes out.

[skippydiesel]

15 minutes ago, BurnieM said:

Check the tent is long enough. Touching the end will get your sleeping bag wet from condensation. Or take a rubbish bag.

Definitely need an insulating sleeping mat if you are camping anywhere cold. You lose more heat thru the ground than the air.

 

Jetboil is a one trick pony but it boils water faster than any other stove type.

 

 

Dimensions; 2.9 x 1.3 x 1.05 - not sure if this is external (inc flysheet) or internal. Either way I am 1.7 (without heels🤣) so should fit with plenty of room to spare for other "stuff"😈

[skippydiesel]

59 minutes ago, Garfly said:

 

Maybe a solid fuel stove like this?

 

This guy reckons you can also use alcohol fuel with it at a pinch.

 

 

Great  concept BUT the large smoky flame, in the video, would not go well if I wanted to use it in the tent "vestibule"😈

[facthunter]

 Confucious say Man who go on camping Holiday have Naughty intent.  Nev

[skippydiesel]

5 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

My preference is this style of tent with the awning part out the front.  That way at nigh you can put chair under the cover and foot ware (both outside the tent but under the zipped up awning so don't get wet with dew or rain.  The ents that don't have an awning allow rain to enter any time your getting in or out. I won't buy a tent without an awning, I do allot of camping.

 

I did about 9 years ago buy the light tent from the site shop ($14.95 and 1.8kg from memory), the zip system did not come together (meet when closed) and that allows bugs to enter; especially centipedes  (they bite hard, from experience).  I was disappointed with the zipper system, the next day put it in the rubbish bin at the site.  Provided nice feedback to Ian as in my opinion not suitable.

 

I advise all persons camping to always zip entry fully closed to keep bugs and snakes out.

 

Has a similar "look" to the Cloud-up 2 Pro 

https://www.naturexplore.com.au/products/naturehike-cloud-up-2-pro-tent

 

[Blueadventures]

3 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Has a similar "look" to the Cloud-up 2 Pro 

https://www.naturexplore.com.au/products/naturehike-cloud-up-2-pro-tent

 

Thats the better design.  Keep dryer in and out.  As I mentioned I put my chair and footware under the outside covered part.  Nothing more unpleasant than a wet chair in the cooler mornings.  By that one.

[facthunter]

And a Scorpion in your shoe..  Nev

[Blueadventures]

3 minutes ago, facthunter said:

And a Scorpion in your shoe..  Nev

Footware outside is thongs or crocs.  Joggers and socks are inside tent.

[Moneybox]

15 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Has a similar "look" to the Cloud-up 2 Pro 

https://www.naturexplore.com.au/products/naturehike-cloud-up-2-pro-tent

 

I thought this was under wing camping? You're going to have pack a jack.

[BurnieM]

Normally I go for a middle of the road 4 man dome tent.

A 2 man tent is pretty small even for 1 person.

Is weight really a facter ?