CAMPING

[Blueadventures]

5 minutes ago, facthunter said:

And a Scorpion in your shoe..  Nev

I found a Rhinoceros Bettle in my boat deck shoe once.  My son collected them and had some in his room. One got out and found its way into my deck shoe that I wore at work.  I slipped my foot in, beetle clamped onto my big toe.  Pulled foot out and could not shake the beetle off; they can hang on.  Got it off my toe and all good to go.  It's a now a family story that brings plenty of laughs when mentioned.

[Blueadventures]

Agree, mine are 3 person for when wife is along on the trip.  Be doing more camping rather than a mix of camping and cabin now that my plane is going up to 600kg MTOW.

Edited Saturday at 01:29 AM by Blueadventures
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[spacesailor]

My last camp ! .

Tooraweenah,  the morning frost was so bad I couldn't fold the chair of even roll the extension lead up ( I left it behind ). 

I boil water in a " copper-thermette " .

Burn anything that's handy .

 

Spacesailor

[onetrack]

Mike, what do you use to sleep on? Have you ever found a satisfactory air mattress that doesn't leak? Keeping ones body off the ground when camping out is my primary aim.

[spacesailor]

Air mattress,  let's the cold from the ground get to your body .

Needs a woollen (  heavy ) blanket under it .

Found it out in Tasmania. 

spacesailor

[Blueadventures]

9 minutes ago, onetrack said:

Mike, what do you use to sleep on? Have you ever found a satisfactory air mattress that doesn't leak? Keeping ones body off the ground when camping out is my primary aim.

I have these self inflating mattresses, they have a layer of foam that insulates against the ground cold coming up through the night.  The typical air mattress will have the cold air coming up through the night.  The self inflating ones are about 1 kg each and are great.  I also have two of the blue yoga type foam mats about 20mm thick that are rolled up and stuffed betwwen the lateral ends of my cargo bin behind the seat and the inside of the fuselage.  The two off them are ok on their own as well. And have a small rectangular pillow as a must.  Have tried backpack with cloths in as a pillow but pillow is a must, if soft like me🙃.  Also a good duck down sleeping bag is a must for the cold. Cheers.

[Moneybox]

When I did Tassie I had a very narrow self-inflating mattress, perhaps 450 wide, that was also quite thin but it insulated quite well from the cold ground. The straight air ones that you blow up seem colder than no mattress at all.

 

I've had several Therma-Rest mattresses and all have lasted for years. The Kathmandu mattress I took to Tassie was smaller and really only lasted one trip.

 

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/camping-and-hiking/sleeping-pad/therm-a-rest-neoair-xtherm-nxt#packed-size

Edited Saturday at 03:12 AM by Moneybox

[rodgerc]

In defence of the Trangia, it comes replete with 2 small saucepans and a mini frypan.
Metho is carried in an aluminium water bottle. Complete the kit of essentials with a (pod version) Minipresso and a couple of 200ml UHT milk tetra packs and the world becomes a beautiful place. 

[skippydiesel]

4 hours ago, BurnieM said:

Normally I go for a middle of the road 4 man dome tent.

A 2 man tent is pretty small even for 1 person.

Is weight really a facter ?

 

Yes, The Sonex Legacy is what I would call a 1+1 crew, that is, its really a single seater with a very intimate space for a second person.

 

Being on the slight side of human shapes/weight, my wife & I fit okay. With full fuel and one up, I have about 60 -70 kg of usable weight (balance will also be a factor) and a very small baggage compartment.😈

[Moneybox]

4 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Yes, The Sonex Legacy is what I would call a 1+1 crew, that is, its really a single seater with a very intimate space for a second person.

 

Being on the slight side of human shapes/weight, my wife & I fit okay. With full fuel and one up, I have about 60 -70 kg of usable weight (balance will also be a factor) and a very small baggage compartment.😈

Skippy it helps to be a light weight but my generous looking load capacity is because I only have 65L fuel capacity. Even two up and full of fuel we'll have 65kg as log as it can be distributed properly. I've been eying off a later model with the two 65L wing tanks and MTOW up from 545kg to 600kg but the owner is uncommunicative.

[skippydiesel]

19 hours ago, Blueadventures said:

I have these self inflating mattresses, they have a layer of foam that insulates against the ground cold coming up through the night.  The typical air mattress will have the cold air coming up through the night.  The self inflating ones are about 1 kg each and are great.  I also have two of the blue yoga type foam mats about 20mm thick that are rolled up and stuffed betwwen the lateral ends of my cargo bin behind the seat and the inside of the fuselage.  The two off them are ok on their own as well. And have a small rectangular pillow as a must.  Have tried backpack with cloths in as a pillow but pillow is a must, if soft like me🙃.  Also a good duck down sleeping bag is a must for the cold. Cheers.

 

Hi Blue,

 

Care to recomend any particular brands of sleeping bag & "self inflating mattresses" ?😈

[Blueadventures]

10 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Hi Blue,

 

Care to recomend any particular brands of sleeping bag & "self inflating mattresses" ?😈

Got them at Annaconda,  when on special price the duck down bags are a good price, half of normal.  Get the length size to suit.  We have two different sizes and also as they are a good quality sleeping bag I get the liner so you just wash the liner after a trip.

Edited Saturday at 10:31 PM by Blueadventures

[skippydiesel]

Hi Blue - Getting confused - Whats the diff between a pump up air matt and a self inflating sleeping mat?😈

 

https://www.kmart.com.au/product/single-self-inflating-mattress-42498575/

[onetrack]

Skippy, air mattresses are pumped up using a small 12V blower or a hand or foot pump. Once inflated to the desired firmness/height, the valve is closed. A lot of air mattresses tend to suffer from air leaks, and sharp objects can puncture them easily, thus care in positioning must be taken, and the area where the mattress is positioned must be free of any sharp objects.

 

Self-inflating mattresses are made from a sponge-type material that is compressed when not in use. When you wish to use a self-inflating mattress, you unscrew a valve that allows air to be sucked into the mattress, as it resumes its full thickness, which is its natural shape/size.

The valve is opened again to release the contained air when you wish to compress the mattress to a transportable size. You can also pump air into a self-inflating mattress to make it higher and firmer.

[spacesailor]

And they " insulate very well ".

Air conducts temperature very easily.   ( air-mat )

Self-inflated  full of insulating foam .    ( self-inflated )

spacesailor

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[skippydiesel]

So - would you prefer/recomend the self inflate?

 

What of the K mart offering  https://www.kmart.com.au/product/single-self-inflating-mattress-42498575/ worth a punt?😈

[onetrack]

$22, you get what you pay for, which isn't much! It's only 4cm high, that soon compresses down, if you weigh the 75kg of the average male.

 

I personally prefer something thicker for my old creaky bones! I'd rather spend a little more money to ensure I got a nice comfortable mattress.

 

Anaconda and the other camping/outdoor stores usually have a better available range than K-Mart, but watch the pricing, and check around, there's some huge markups in this stuff.

 

Edited yesterday at 03:39 AM by onetrack

[Blueadventures]

3 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

So - would you prefer/recomend the self inflate?

 

What of the K mart offering  https://www.kmart.com.au/product/single-self-inflating-mattress-42498575/ worth a punt?😈

Probably too bulky, and like onetrack says maybe not lasting quality.

[facthunter]

Stay home and appreciate the comfort and IF something breaks you can fix it in the workshop.  I'd feel really bad if a bed went down on me .Nev

[Moneybox]

5 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

So - would you prefer/recomend the self inflate?

 

What of the K mart offering  https://www.kmart.com.au/product/single-self-inflating-mattress-42498575/ worth a punt?😈

Definitely go self inflating, not because of the inflating but because they insulate you from the cold ground. The ordinary blow-up ones are very cold to sleep on. Even if the self inflating one gets punctured it still gives you some support.

[Steve L]

I just got back from a bike road trip in Tassie. I used my 1 1/2 man tent ( 2.2kg) and a Zempire Monstermat 100 mm thick mattress (3.1 kg) . . 

5.3 kgs isn’t that heavy, even in a aircraft for one’s accommodation. I have never found any mattress as comfortable. 
Steve 

[Marty_d]

3 hours ago, facthunter said:

I'd feel really bad if a bed went down on me .Nev

You pay extra for that.

[BrendAn]

these are comfortable but only suitable for high wing aircraft🤣

 

 

 

 

[Blueadventures]

10 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

these are comfortable but only suitable for high wing aircraft🤣

 

 

 

 

Is that the one with and air conditioner and heater?

 

[BrendAn]

4 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

Is that the one with and air conditioner and heater?

 

yes the comfort plus upgrade.  you need to apply to raa for a rooftop camper marap unless your aircraft has an approval from the factory.

check your paperwork for an rtc stc

Edited yesterday at 11:55 AM by BrendAn