Guest Brett Campany Posted January 9, 2009 Posted January 9, 2009 What the hell is a grab-bag you say? This is a grab-bag from Pains Wessex They're about $21 from pilots shops and other various places, Google this sucker and you'll find a supplier close to you for sure. Pains Wessex's Safety Grab Bag, is approximately 60cm long by 30cm wide, and is big enough to store essential safety equipment such as a first aid pack, distress signals and torch that may be needed in an emergency at sea. Designed to withstand the rigours of life at sea and compact enough to fit into a boat’s locker the Safety Grab Bag is hard wearing, water resistant and buoyant. The Grab Bag has also been designed to be conspicuous, incorporating the bright yellow and red colours of Pains Wessex. The Safety Grab Bag will allow sailors to feel confident that all safety equipment can be accessed easily in an emergency situation. Courtesy Chemring Australia - Home Now, as a SAR organisation, we carry about 4 of these on each of our Dornier's. You can fill one or two of them with anything you guys need or like but generally we hold these items in them. Seven Ocean water bags Seven Ocean food packs Thermal Blanket 1 x box Aquatabs 1 x torch & battery's Cylume sticks (green & red) 1 x light strobe V-Sheet - to signal aircraft of your situation Signal mirror Insect repellent Marine matches So this is just a list of what we carry for 5 crew so you can pretty much guess what you need for just one or two. All of this gear is available here in Australia so when you plan your next big cross country trip, just put something like this in mind. Oh and a timely reminder that the 121.5MHz EPIRB's will no longer have a satellite listening to them as of next month so if you're still carrying one, please upgrade to the new 406MHz EPIRB before Feb! Fly safe everyone! :thumb_up:
Guest High Plains Drifter Posted January 9, 2009 Posted January 9, 2009 Some say, what the pilot wears is the 'survival' kit - whats carried in the aircraft is the 'camping' kit.
BLA82 Posted January 9, 2009 Posted January 9, 2009 Do they come in an insulated version to keep the rum and coke cold?
Guest Maj Millard Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks for that R416. I redid my survival kit a couple of weeks ago and I am always amazed what I get in. Found some batterys that were leaking, so it was a timely check. I'm planning some long trips this year over doubtfull country, and I've always planned to be comfortable for at least 48 hrs if forced down. With my new 406 I should not be there that long anyway, but doesn't hurt to still carry the gear..................................
Guest Brett Campany Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks for that R416. I redid my survival kit a couple of weeks ago and I am always amazed what I get in. Found some batterys that were leaking, so it was a timely check. I'm planning some long trips this year over doubtfull country, and I've always planned to be comfortable for at least 48 hrs if forced down. With my new 406 I should not be there that long anyway, but doesn't hurt to still carry the gear.................................. Here's something for you as well, in the event you fly over the ocean and you need to ditch then some sea dye is an awesome asset for when help is on the way. We attach sea dye to our flares and have found that it can be better to use than the flares themselves. Just something to think about.
icebob Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Hi R467, if i went into the drink i can make my own marker, its big and brown, well you get the picture, Ha, ha. Oh that survival at sea in boiler suits and boots??????? Bob.
Guest Brett Campany Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Hi R467,if i went into the drink i can make my own marker, its big and brown, well you get the picture, Ha, ha. Oh that survival at sea in boiler suits and boots??????? Bob. hahahaha that could always work, you'd just hope that sharks aren't attracted to it!
Guest Maj Millard Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 I would expect they would be decidedly repelled !!!!!!! R416 I am a great believer in having a signal mirror on board. I remember the real nice ones with the hole in the middle, that we used to pack in the Mirage survival kits. Haven't been able to find one lately, however John Brandons recommendation in the RAA operations DVD mentions use of an old CD/DVD as a signal mirror. He didn't mention weather to use the RAA one or not. I've put one on board, and it's even got an aiming hole in it. Thanks John......................
Guest Brett Campany Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I would expect they would be decidedly repelled !!!!!!!R416 I am a great believer in having a signal mirror on board. I remember the real nice ones with the hole in the middle, that we used to pack in the Mirage survival kits. Haven't been able to find one lately, however John Brandons recommendation in the RAA operations DVD mentions use of an old CD/DVD as a signal mirror. He didn't mention weather to use the RAA one or not. I've put one on board, and it's even got an aiming hole in it. Thanks John...................... Yeah we've got these in our aircraft in the unlikely event that we go down. Touch wood. A CD or DVD is probably the best tool out of all but a signal mirror or "heliograph" as the emergency gurus like to call it, can be found at most camping shops or outdoor shops. I'm pretty sure Rangers or BCF still have them.
Guest Maj Millard Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I'm going to do some ground to air tests with a DVD and see how well they work, when I can get a mate to go fly. I'll let you know how well they work.
Guest Brett Campany Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I'm going to do some ground to air tests with a DVD and see how well they work, when I can get a mate to go fly. I'll let you know how well they work. Sounds like a plan, see if you can get video or photos as well.
icebob Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Hi, Picked up a smallish heliograph/mirror from BCF for about $6. The usual went in looking for the mirror/heliograph and came out with about 100 bucks of gear, the wife was real happy she sat in the car for nearly two hours, looks like i will have to do some serious smooching tonight???? Bob.
Guest Maj Millard Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Thanks Icebob, I'll have a gander, but only take ten bucks with me !!..............
pudestcon Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Bob Cooper's Outback Survival Kit This thread (a beauty it is too) brought back some memories of when I did a bit of bushwalking a couple of decades ago so I went looking for the survival kit I purchased when I did a survival course with Bob Cooper - go here desert survival courses, outback survival courses, snake handling courses Bob Cooper Survival, wa - Bob Cooper Survival for Bob Cooper. If I knew how to post photos here they would show the size and contents, obviously for bush walking but the size and weight possibly has applications for the flying we do. The contents include in no particular order... 2 A4 sheets on bush survival including how to signal an aircraft using the included mirror. A clear plastic bag for generating water by condensing or you could use to catch rain water. A small compass. A sewing needle - to sew up deep cuts. Fishing line and hook. (can use fishing line with sewing needle) Wire trace for snaring animals to eat etc. Section of hacksaw blade. (could be useful for removing aircraft door to provide shelter) Pocket knife. Condys crystals mix with water for powerful antiseptic. (or use with sugar/glucose for starting fire) Glucose tablet for energy or to start fire. Bandaids, Steriwipes/swabs. Panadol. Puritabs for sterilising water for drinking. (can also use condys crystals for sterilising water for drinking) Wire type saw with ring pulls both ends. (use for cutting small branches from trees) Cigarette lighter - not necessarily to light your cancer stick. Roll of string. Tweezers. 2 scalpals sealed in foil - sterilised. 2 stock cubes to make soup. 1 tea bag:laugh: Metal container and hinged lid measuring 103mm x 75mm x 45mm high. 1 metre of gaffer tape (the strong stuff) used to seal the lid on the container. Also used for sealing tears in the plastic bag and for holding a splint in place in the event of a broken limb; amongst other things It's amazing the uses for all this stuff with the application of a bit of thought - and all packed into a box not much bigger than a soap container. I notice on Bob's site he has a new Survival Kit Mark 3. A bit pricey though. I think I'll renew the contents of my kit and carry with me from now on. Thanks for the thread R461 Pud.
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