Cessna flipped over on landing - What caused it?

[Guest Pabloako]

Does anyone know what the cause of this would have been?

 

Tail wind? Cross wind? Bad luck?

 

BBC NEWS | Special Reports | Wind flips plane over on runway

 

 

[Barefootpilot]

Looks like it was starting to ground loop and the pilot stood on the brakes to try and stop it going around (normal to use brake if the rudder isn't effective enough) and over she goes. Might have been better to let it run off the runway onto the grass or even let it ground loop. Easy to say when your sitting back watching it from home.

 

 

[Guest Airbus_Boy14]

Hard braking?

 

 

[facthunter]

Tip over.

 

I'd say there was a bit of down-wind. The cause of tipping over is brake application, and the elevator/tailplane does not have enough airflow over it to hold the tail down. It's fairly easy to put a taildragger on its nose with excessive braking. Nev.

 

 

[Guest ozzie]

I saw a 185 flip on it's back at jaspers brush in 1994. it looked very similar to what happened there only in a straighter line and it was on grass not tar. dum dum insisted on using the park brake when the jumpers climbed out onto the wheel. forgot to release it when he landed.

 

not many clues as to what the wind was up to in the vid. maybe the pilot just got a bit anxious on the brakes when it got a bit squirrilly.

 

best to three piont them and avoid the tar and go for grass.

 

 

[Guest High Plains Drifter]

Everybody survived, so not that bad.

 

Interesting to note all the DC3s in the background. I count at least four.

 

 

[slartibartfast]

There seems to be a windsock in the background at 00:06 showing the landing is into the wind. Lack of rudder movement while veering left and screeching tyres make it seem like tunnel vision and applying brakes too hard are causes.

 

 

[Guest High Plains Drifter]

I wonder why the video camera was running? were they expecting problems?

 

 

[RetiredRacer]

Inexperience. It's a tail dragger, he/she should have had the wheel/stick back in their guts holding the tail down the whole time it was on the ground. If it's tail wheel steer it allows steer ability plus the angle of attack on the wings gives more drag which equates to to a braking affect, plus if the elevator is holding the tail down it allows more efficient braking.

 

You can see by the video the only time the elevator moved up to it's maximum travel was when the plane was doing a nose dive.

 

(Now as I have only 7.5 hours up if I'm not 100% correct with my assessment here please let me know as I don't want to fail my exam.)

 

 

[Student Pilot]

Looks like he still had power on after he touched down, running out of room and braked too hard. It's OK to hold the tail up in a wheeler but most who have had a bit of tailwheel time go for a tail low wheeler.