Request Images of Jabiru J 230

[Guest Dr Nick]

Request Images of Jabiru J 230 - Option 2 Instrument Panel

 

Hi all,

 

I just started training for my RA license, and I have to find a way to remember the checklists etc.

 

I thought i might be able to do this with an interactive web page, in which I would have to click on the right switches in the right order etc.

 

To do this I would need an image of the instrument panel of a Jabiru J-230 - preferably with all the controls visible.

 

EDIT - I ONLY WANT THE OPTION 2 INSTRUMENT PANEL - SEE THE JABIRU WEBSITE FOR MORE DETAILS ON THIS

 

I found this one:

 

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5467/option2panelimg0846ediui0.gif

 

with a google search, but some of the switches are hidden, so I was wondering it it would be possible for someone to get a picture of the instrument panel, like this one, but with all the controls visible (or two, with different controls blocked out, so I could photoshop the pictures together and get a full image of the instrument panel).

 

I would also find it great if someone could get a picture of the plane head on so I could include things like checking fuel and oil etc.

 

Thanks so much in advance,

 

Nick.

 

Note - once I get it working (If I can) I would be glad to share it around ;)

 

 

[Tomo]

I like your idea there Nick,

 

but I was thinking it might be better for you to get a picture of the actual J-230 you will be flying in, reason being, is that because there are a few different ways of setting up and instrument panel in those things, different layouts etc... so if you would like to get accustomed to the aircraft you will be flying, that may be a better way to do it. Just a thought though...

 

 

[MrH]

Hi - maybe from Jabiru web site under instrument layouts

 

Jabiru Aircraft&Engines Australia

 

H

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

I was aware of this, Tomo. Is it true that there are only a few ways to set it up (3 or 4)? I thought this must be true because of the image here:

 

http://www.jabiru.net.au/J230D/J230-Flyer-B.gif

 

There are four layouts of the instrument panel.

 

If these are the only ways to set it up, I am positive that I am flying with the one on the bottom left *EDIT: BOTTOM RIGHT, NOT LEFT, THIS WAS A TYPO*. (I think the image in my 1st post has the same layout as this)

 

Is what I am saying true? or was I mislead?

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

MrH,

 

Sorry, I didnt see your post, I just had a look, and its the exact same image as in my 1st post, but in a different location:

 

http://www.jabiru.net.au/instruments/option-2-panel-IMG_0846-edi.gif

 

From this, though, I have determined that we must be using option 2, So I guess I'll have a look for option 2 images?

 

Thanks

 

Nick

 

 

[Tomo]

(I think the image in my 1st post has the same layout as this)

The one in your first post is the one on the bottom right, I'm pretty sure...

 

Instead of the VSI, it's got the EFIS system in the ASI spot...if you can get what I mean by that.

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

Sorry everyone, I did actually mean bottom right, I got a little mixed up ;)

 

 

[Tomo]

Sorry everyone, I did actually mean bottom right, I got a little mixed up ;)

No worry's Doc', I kinda thought that must have been the case, but thought I'd mention it anyway...:big_grin:

 

:thumb_up:

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

Yer, thanks Tomo, I wouldnt want to cause too much confusion... :)

 

So does anyone have any pictures of a Jabiru Option 2 instrument panel?

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

 

[Ultralights]

technically there should always be a checklist in the aircraft, and every time you fly, you should use the checklist, as memory can and will fail, and if you have a chatty passenger, or distracted by a radio call, you can and will forget items on the checklist if relying on memory. even 747 captains, and fighter pilots still use checklist every flight.. even a 20,000 767 captain uses the checklist when flying our Tecnam.

 

 

[bilby54]

Hi all,I just started training for my RA license, and I have to find a way to remember the checklists etc.

 

I thought i might be able to do this with an interactive web page, in which I would have to click on the right switches in the right order etc.

 

Nick.

Hi Nick,

 

Great idea here. A couple of things that you might like to consider about checklists in general.

 

If the current aircraft that you are flying is going to be the only aircraft that you will ever fly from here to eternity, then your idea will work well. But what if you just happen to fly another similar aircraft or one far removed from what you are training in now? Consider what you would do in an emergency situation where the carb heat control is in a different position.

 

Checklists should cover the safe operation of the aircraft and not the exact position of a particular switch or instrument. How would you handle the situation if the school brought the next model aircraft and your computerised program was different? Many pilots learn to fly on different aircraft with the same school - I learned on two different Warriors, a 140 and a 172.

 

Learn checklists to get you safely off of the the ground but when the proverbial hits the fan, know instinctively what to do. My old instructors started with a scan of the panel from left to right then top to bottom - whatever the mode of flight.

 

Have fun learning and cheers,

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

technically there should always be a checklist in the aircraft, and every time you fly, you should use the checklist, as memory can and will fail, and if you have a chatty passenger, or distracted by a radio call, you can and will forget items on the checklist if relying on memory. even 747 captains, and fighter pilots still use checklist every flight.. even a 20,000 767 captain uses the checklist when flying our Tecnam.

Yes, there is a checklist, but my instructor would like it if I was able to remember it off by heart. This way I will be much more confident etc. We will always double check we have done everything before we move on, just in case, but I need to know the first little bit by next weekend.

 

Hi Nick,Great idea here. A couple of things that you might like to consider about checklists in general.

 

If the current aircraft that you are flying is going to be the only aircraft that you will ever fly from here to eternity, then your idea will work well. But what if you just happen to fly another similar aircraft or one far removed from what you are training in now? Consider what you would do in an emergency situation where the carb heat control is in a different position.

 

Checklists should cover the safe operation of the aircraft and not the exact position of a particular switch or instrument. How would you handle the situation if the school brought the next model aircraft and your computerised program was different? Many pilots learn to fly on different aircraft with the same school - I learned on two different Warriors, a 140 and a 172.

 

Learn checklists to get you safely off of the the ground but when the proverbial hits the fan, know instinctively what to do. My old instructors started with a scan of the panel from left to right then top to bottom - whatever the mode of flight.

 

Have fun learning and cheers,

I do know this, yes.

 

Things is; my flight school only has one plane (and frankly I think it set them over budget ;) just kidding), and only <10 members.

 

The only reason I want this is so i know where to go instinctively, rather than wasting time in a critical situation looking for the controls i know I must use.

 

I thought that a good way to learn this would be to incorporate the checklist into it, so I could be forced to do it right, as well as get used to where the controls are.

 

Does this sound like a good idea, just to get me started?

 

Nick

 

 

[MrH]

Not sure if this helps.

 

If it does & you want a higher res picture PM me with an email address

 

Cheers

 

H

 

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[Ultralights]

have to agree, remembering the basic of a checklist will help with confidence, but dont rely on that memory, though saying that, there are 2 checklists tthat will be very helpful to learn by heart, 1st would be the Downwind checklist, you will need to know this before you go solo, and basically it is BUMFISH (brakes-OFF, Undercarriage-DOWN, Fuel-ON and sufficient,Instruments-scan (alt) temps and pressures, Security-loose items stowed, seatbelts tight, Hatches-doors/hatches/canopy locked) 2nd would be the emergency/engine failure checklist... though dont worry to much about this until you get to that part of your training.. and you will be required to know this procedure for your licence test.

 

hope this helps.

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

Ok thanks...

 

MrH - sorry, but that is the wrong layout of the instrument panel - I am looking for option 2 only.

 

Thanks anyway

 

Nick

 

 

[Guest keeffe]

Chhiiffta I feel can be used on any aircraft.

 

controls, hatches, harnesses, instruments, ignition, fuel, flaps, trim, area.

 

That covers most things and you can just add letters to it to suite other types. could add an A to the end to be airbrakes for a glider etc etc.

 

Don't wish to treat you like a fool I am sure your instructor has taught you this, however just in case he hasn't

 

 

[Guest Dr Nick]

Thanks, keeffe.

 

I have the external check, internal check, and start up down now, and this is all I need to know for this week...

 

Can't wait for my next lesson ;)

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

PS: I'd still like a picture of the panel so I can make this web page ;)