Admin Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 I have a better idea Paul - I'll fly and you drive the aircraft carrier:laugh:
facthunter Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 I thought New Zealand was the Land of the wrong white crowd, Now I'm enlightened. Ben Buckley lives in Benambra, just north of OMEO in N/E Victoria. There is a fly-in each year, which co-incides with a local horse racing event.I will probably attend again this year. The aerodrome is the bed of Lake Omeo, Bens hangar is at the N/E end of the lake. Nev.......
Guest Fred Bear Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 I know Ben Buckley. He has written a book called "Buckley's Chance." Very much a legend in Vic. He was last seen flying around Hotham in falling snow looking for the Chieftain that crashed there with Russell Lee at the controls. I remember the rescue guys criticising him for his actions on the day. He flew a Lightwing 582 named "My Sister Kate" across a few years back from Orbost where he used to be the mayor. He is a well known cropduster pilot and has lost his licence several times and fought CASA many times and actually won. He once lost his licence when he dropped a load of fertiliser on the local football team for a show like Today-Tonight! CASA watched it and took his licence away! The 582 Lightwing was stacked with plastic containers from the local tip full of fuel with a very intricate system of taps and hoses. It was also somewhat overloaded. I remember he pee'ed himself on the way over coz he had nowhere to "go!" There are so many stories about Ben I could talk about, however you need to read his book, available from all quality book stores. A real character. He is also famous for flying under practically every bridge in the area. One bridge he flew under was smaller than his wingspan! When questioned by the authorities and they realised his wings were wider they dropped any action, however everyone knew he did it as he went through with a hell of a lot of rudder! Good stuff.
Guest Sabre Posted November 29, 2006 Posted November 29, 2006 Outstanding article and effort.......definitely big balls for that flight and a testiment to the aircraft.....I'm jealous Sabre
Guest alpine Posted January 1, 2007 Posted January 1, 2007 True facts only Both my father and I have flown many hours with Ben Buckley. Ben is responsible for introducing a huge number of young people to the art of flying aircraft, has always been the first person to put his hand up when people are in need, in fact has on more than one occasion been resposible for saving lives, although it may have been through some daring flying. There are many stories about some of his antics, some true some not true, many have been told so often that they are nothing like they started out as. And some stories that have not been told. Ben is more than an excellent pilot, has acheived more in his life time than many of us could only wish to acheive in two or three life times. I believe he departed Australia from Mallacoota on his NZ epic, the fuel containers looked to be brand new when I saw them and the only trouble I am aware of that he had in NZ was that there were no customs people where he first landed.
Guest Agent Posted January 2, 2007 Posted January 2, 2007 And I thought that we do adventure flying in South Africa but what you have just done is awsome and you must be loaded with the biggest pair of brass chahoooonas to fly that far over the ocean. With your permission I would like to post your story on our forum in SA but willl wait for your ok.;) I have recieved permission to post on our SA forum and if any of you guys want to pay us a visit here the address. www.microlighters.co.za
pylon500 Posted January 3, 2007 Posted January 3, 2007 At least when (if) we outland here in Australia, nothing tries to EAT us!! We just got it too good. Arthur
uberwooky Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 Hi there Michael! I hope you don't mind me replying on the forum. I'm an interstate trucker with a passion for flying. Just wanted to say, that after getting my recreational licence, my next "big dream" is to fly a "little plane" across the Tasman to my home country of NZ. If you finally decide to "do it again", drop me a line. I might even be game enough to do it (I drive 8000k's a week Sydney-Perth, so it would be a bit similar, but a really different perspective and nowhere to pull up!!). For me, it would be the adventure of a lifetime (gotta do these things!). Received this today, good story and acheivement.Welcome to Newsletter36 - the latest edition of the Pipistrel aircraft newsletter for November 2006, and what a busy week we have had ! Please excuse the large number of images in this newsletter. The plan was to establish a new dealer for New Zealand and to fly his aircraft from Australia to New Zealand as part of the delivery process. This sounds very easy when you say it quickly, but in reality this is quite an adventure with nearly 2500 km or 1350 nautical miles of open ocean to be crossed and a mountain of paperwork to be completed before the adventure can begin. In the past there have been probably three or four ultralight registered aircraft transit the Pacific Ocean between Australia and New Zealand but none have been done legaly and it was our intention to have all of the correct paperwork in place before departure. This meant liaising with the New Zealand CAA, Australia's equivalent CASA, customs and quarantine in both Australia and New Zealand and several other government agencies including the tax office etc. My biggest recommendation to others who want to follow this adventure is to allow plenty of time to prepare all the paperwork, because the transit had not been done legaly before in an ultralight registered aircraft there are a number of issues which needed to be resolved with the different statutory bodies. All I can say is that I'm very appreciative of both Rex Kenny from the New Zealand CAA and Andrew Ward from CASA who both went out of their way to ensure our delivery could be fulfilled on time. Hopefully now the paperwork and precedent is in place it will make it easier for others to attempt this adventure, however would I recommend anybody else try to cross the Pacific Ocean..... well, read on. They say that when the weight of the paperwork matches the weight of the aircraft then you are ready to take off......... this may be a true saying in some respects but with a wad of paperwork only about 50 mm or 2 inches thick I thought I was doing quite well. Probably the smallest package of information I had was my flight plan which had a starting point, two way points and my landing destination. The day before departure our aircraft was reassembled after being in storage are several months and test flown at a local airfield before being flown down to the Gold Coast Airport for refuelling and preparation for the next day's flight. I also visited the customs and quarantine office to get them to check over our paperwork to make sure everything was in order and there would be no delays in getting away first thing in the morning. I was surprised at how smooth the customs process went because everything was pre-organised for me and when customs arrived the next morning it was actually easier than departing on a normal commercial flight. Refuelling at the Gold Coast Airport just before dark Departure day arrived after a restless night thinking about all the little things I still had to do and all of the things I'd probably forgotten to do. Arriving at the airport at 5.30 a.m. I untied the aircraft and checked over everything one more time before I was greeted by the customs and quarantine people right on our 6 a.m. meeting time. What I thought would be a long and drawnout process of checking my bags and unpacking the plane was simply a matter of sign here on the bottom of this form and have a good trip, this may have been some omen but the rest of my trip was as simple and a straightforward as this customs process with everybody I met being helpful, on time and most importantly very friendly. Donning my life jacket and making sure the life raft was in easy reach it was on with the ignition, full choke, throttle off and press the starter, unfortunately the battery would only just turn the engine over because when I looked up I discovered that I had left the second of the three GPS units I had fitted on overnight and the battery had been flattened. It didn't take long to get a jumpstart from the local security personnel and I was off and taxing after clearance. "You have bigger balls and I do....... Cleared for takeoff, left-hand turn on climb 5500 feet tracking for Lord Howe Island, good luck" were the words from the control tower at Coolangatta airport. With the introduction of throttle my Pipistrel Sinus 912 powered aircraft rolled down the runway and became airborne, a left-hand turn at 500 feet saw me crossing the coast and out over the Pacific Ocean in less than 30 seconds, there was no time for second thoughts because my first landing point, Lord Howe Island is just a speck in the ocean nearly 700 kilometres away. Australia's most easterly point Cape Byron and the last land I would see for nearly 4 hours Everything seemed to be going in slow motion as I left the coast. For the first time in many years of flying there was nothing in front of me except open ocean as Cape Byron disappeared out of sight from my right hand door, a lonely cargo ship motored beneath me approximately 5 miles offshore, little did I know at the time, this would be the last boat I would see until arriving into New Zealand. The total sense of being alone is really compounded when the only device you have to keep you company is a little yellow line on the GPS. Lord Howe Island was my first waypoint and after 3 1/2 hours I could vaguely make out the shape of the island through the cloud and haze ahead, I had all the pleasures and technology of three separate GPS units and I wondered at how some of the early aviation pioneers would ever find these locations because they are simply so small and hard to see in a very large ocean A very small island in a very large ocean, Lord Howe Island can only just be seen through the haze and without a GPS to guide me I imagine it would be very easy to miss Lord Howe Island, notice the runway which is only 800 m long and suffers from extreme turbulence in windy conditions Lord Howe Island is a tourist mecca and fantastic fishing location. Even on a short final I could see hundreds of really large fish in the ocean below. The local traffic regulations refer to "Severe turbulence in the area which may prevent a landing on the runway when the wing is 15 knots or stronger. The bureau of meteorology is not able to forecast severe turbulence in all cases and the final responsibility with landing rests with the pilot in command of the aircraft and he must consider the possibility of a diversion to a mainland aerodrome should turbulence preclude a safe approach" pretty strong wording in the aerodrome information pack but fortunately on the day I passed through the wind was only around 8 or 9 kn and I was able to make a safe arrival. Approach in to Lord Howe Island airstrip Refuelling at Lord Howe Island and kept company by the locals As with everywhere I went the locals came out en-masse when I arrived..... people were just so friendly and interested in the Pipistrel aircraft. There were always offers of let me rush you down to the shop and get something to eat or drink, where are you going, we are have you been etc. They tell me they now only see probably 10 to15 light aircraft through each year, unfortunately the numbers are dwindling whereas 10 years ago it would have been possible to get four or five aircraft each week passing through. None of the people I spoke to are entirely sure why aircraft are not making the crossing between Australia and New Zealand any more but it may be that commercial air flights are so inexpensive that it now probably cost you 10 times as much to fly in your own aircraft than it does to take a commercial flight. Shortly after refuelling at Lord Howe Island, it was a quick impromptu fly-over for the locals and then back to the GPS heading and another 900 km of open ocean between Lord Howe Island and Norfolk Island which was to take me around 4 1/2 at an average speed of 200 kilometres per hour. Norfolk Island in the distance again only just visible through the haze Arriving overhead Norfolk Island which has good cross strips and a jet service four times a week Norfolk Island was originally one of the British penal colonies established for convicts which they never wanted to release again. Located a long way from anywhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean approximately 400 miles from the nearest land there is absolutely no way they would have ever escaped. Today the island survives on tourism with many visitors from both Australia and New Zealand flying in several times a week on jet flights. When arrivaing into Norfolk Island it is necessary to taxi up to the main terminal building with all of your doors and vents shut in the aircraft, the customs and quarantine official then passes a small canister of fly spray through the door ang you are required to spray inside the cockpit and also in the rear luggage areas and then sit there for approximately 5 minutes. This process was again repeated in New Zealand in an effort to stop the introduction of exotic bugs, pests and diseases. Even though the can of fly spray is approved by the world health organisation and has 'aircraft approved' written on the label you still coughed and spluttered and longed for fresh air while undergoing the longest five minutes in your life. I remember as a kid arriving back from any overseas trips they used to open the doors of the aircraft to allow two customs officials in who would then proceed to the back of the aircraft and walk forward spraing fly spray over everybody, it was a great introduction to tourists arriving into Australia that the first thing we did to them was spray them and fly spray and then allow them to choke for 5 to 10 minutes. Nowadays the same fly spray is automatically introduced into the aircraft air-conditioning system approximately half an hour out from Australia, it is easy to pick up because everybody starts sneezing and coughing usually around top of descent even though its actually quite difficult to smell. Norfolk Island fire and rescue service uses three fire trucks built in the 1960s Refuelling at Norfolk Island with a jet and terminal in the background Arriving at Norfolk Island in the late afternoon this was to be my overnight destination after a very enjoyable 1000 mile trip in just over eight hours. Again everybody was more than friendly and I had several offers of a lift to my motel accommodation and assistance with tying down etc, both Lord Howe Island and Norfolk Islands are very interesting places and I intend a comeback as a tourist sometime in the future and have a good look around. Heading to New Zealand, 4450 rpm 105 kn indicated for 111 kn across the ground at 9285 feet Departing Norfolk Island and heading off to New Zealand, the panel above shows in-flight conditions and the fact that the GPS is probably the most in port and instrument in the aircraft for a flight of this type. The concentration required however is much more than you would normally expect when flying over land, because there are no reference points at all it is simply a matter of following a tiny line on the GPS and every 30 minutes marking off your progress on a map. There is no reference to any land points at all and it is much harder to fly over water than it is to fly over land. One of the many cloud layers I had to cross Whilst generally the weather was good for my crossing with light winds which were generally cross winds, there were occasions where large banks of cloud crossed my path, these cloud banks seem to be several hundred kilometres long but only 5 to 10 km wide, I could imagine if you were underneath these it would be very easy to become disorientated because they reflected off the surface of the ocean and actually look like they went from about sea level all the way up to about 6000 feet. Again I thought about our early aviation pioneers and the difficulties they may have had crossing large oceans like the Pacific on just a compass. The northern tip of New Zealand After what seemed like forever the northern tip of New Zealand finally came into view on the horizon, it was really interesting to see the cloud formation starting over land as can be seen in the photograph above. New Zealand is commonly known as the land of the long white cloud and nothing could be truer from what I saw on my approach into New Zealand. I could actually see the cumulas clouds building up over land well before I could see the land itself. Interestingly I could hear traffic in circuit at Kerikeri airport over 150 miles out from the destination and was able to transmit to them over VHF radio advising them of my arrival in 1 hour and 30 minutes, the actual lack of VHF transmissions throughout the trip showed just how far from civilisation I had travelled during the crossing. When near the coast of Australia transmissions could be heard on several frequencies every minute or so as I got further from the coast transmissions dropped off until eventually at around 350 miles there was just silence on the radio. I knew there was jet traffic travelling overhead between Australia and New Zealand and i always had the comfort of knowing if something went wrong that I could probably raise one of the jets on the emergency frequency 121.5 Arrival at Kerikeri Airport New Zealand Arriving at Kerikeri airport New Zealand I was surprised at the amount of people there. It wasn't until I underwent the compulsory fly spray routine again and was allowed out of the aircraft but I found out they were actually holding an open day at the airport to try and encourage new people to become involved in flying. It was good that I arrived around lunchtime when the crowd was at its biggest because it proved that even a light aircraft like the Pipistrel Sinus was more than capable of cross continental journeys as was shown not only by my trip but also by Matez Lenarcic who flew the Pipistrel aircraft around the world some 18 months ago. Customs and quarantine procedures again went like clockwork and with the necessary paperwork and documentation done I was a free man allowed to wander around the New Zealand countryside. Overall, it was a great sense of personal achievement to actually do a flight that not too many had done before me, I guess it was probably the same sort of feeling that people had when they summited Everest or acheived some other lifetime goal, the difference with my trip was it required no physical exertion, it was easy just to sit in the comfortable cockpit of the Pipistrel and all I had to do was to keep the nose pointed in the right direction and mark off the miles on my maps. The next two days were spent in New Zealand giving our dealer Mr Alan Clarke a thorough overview of the aircraft, with 8000 plus hours as an ag pilot and many hours in helicopters it didn't take him too long to feel comfortable in the aircraft. The contact details for Alan are below and I encourage any of our New Zealand customers to make contact with him in the coming weeks to organise a test flight and evaluation of the Pipistrel Sinus aircraft which has again proven itself on the world stage. A Very happy customer and dealer Alan Clarke finally with his new plane Now the big question....... With all that ocean and so few opportunities to land if something goes wrong would I ever do the flight again ? This is a question that went through my mind several times on the trip over, whilst I was in the aircraft the answer was a definite NO... it's probably pushing luck a little bit too far. Now I have returned however the pressures and dangers have now long left my mind and it probably seems a good idea to attempt the trip again but this time fly direct between Australia and New Zealand without landing, now that would be an adventure. Total distance travelled, 2452.5 km, total flying time 12:47:23, average fuel consumption in 11.2 lp/h Take care.... Michael Coates
kgwilson Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 There have been a number of flights from NZ to Australia in recreational aircraft mostly NZ registered. NZ does not have a separate register with all Ultralights & Microlights (all called Microlights in NZ) on the ZK register. An old aero club friend of mine Noel Bailey delivered a couple of Piper Sports (maybe more) from the Agent in NZ to customers in Australia. There was an article in the RAA magazine about one of the deliveries
av8vfr Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 There have been a number of flights from NZ to Australia in recreational aircraft mostly NZ registered. NZ does not have a separate register with all Ultralights & Microlights (all called Microlights in NZ) on the ZK register. An old aero club friend of mine Noel Bailey delivered a couple of Piper Sports (maybe more) from the Agent in NZ to customers in Australia. There was an article in the RAA magazine about one of the deliveries Original post was 2006, so probably a few have made the journey since then..
eightyknots Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 Now there are 4 people to do the crossing, 2 from NZ and 2 from AU, the only one was illegal was Ben Buckley in a 2 STROKE Lightwing from Tasmania to NZ south island which took 12 hours non stop !! Now thats an adventure !! He is also famous for flying under practically every bridge in the area. One bridge he flew under was smaller than his wingspan! When questioned by the authorities and they realised his wings were wider they dropped any action, however everyone knew he did it as he went through with a hell of a lot of rudder! Good stuff.
ausadvance Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I was talking to Bruce Stark a while back and he mentioned that 2 Tecnams have been flown from NZ across the islands to Aust.Hopefully one day I might get up the courage and fly across to Tas - flying to or from NZ....well, that is another story a mate of mine flew Byron Bay to Tassy in a Drifter!
johnm Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I just read in a nz rag that a 'biggles' flew a C150 or 152 from hobart tas. to haast nz. (middle west coast sth island nz) direct ............ .......................... 10.50 hours I think it said !
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