Relfy Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 Doh, I just saw that the Jab 120 has gone up to $63,000 or $60,000 with a reconditioned engine. Does anyone know if they are increasing the price on the entire line?
Guest brentc Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 It's the quick or the dead as they say. I posted 1 day after Narromine that prices were going up 10% !
Relfy Posted May 8, 2009 Author Posted May 8, 2009 10% is a fair hike though. Did you hear why this was happening Brent? Seems like a strange time to be doing this.
Guest brentc Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 Rod told someone in my presence at Narromine. Their prices haven't gone up for quite some time, in the case of the J120 it essentially came down. I think he said something along the lines of how much some of the other aircraft had gone up and that Jabiru's had barely gone up for years and there was simply not enough margin in them.
BigPete Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 :thumb_up: Look on the bright side. All of us that own Jabirus (or is that Jabiri??) hopefully will see a slight rise in value. regards :big_grin::big_grin:
Guest drizzt1978 Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 :thumb_up: Look on the bright side. All of us that own Jabirus (or is that Jabiri??) hopefully will see a slight rise in value. regards :big_grin::big_grin: It just makes the seconhand prices a bit more realistic, I would hate to be selling a jab around $40-50 when every one is saying dam that just get a 120!!
Guest brentc Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 That Mr Drizzt is the exact reason why Rod priced the J120 at $58k, he said he was sick of people selling (or trying to sell) their aircraft for more than they paid for them 5-10 years ago, it's just not fair on everyone buying them!
Mick Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 This could be a case of since all the imported stuff has gone up due to exchange rates, why not lift the price of a local product and increase profits.
quentas Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 The Jabirus are considered `underpriced` when you compare them to imports, even at 10% dearer, ESPECIALLY the J120.
quentas Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 Does anyone know if they are increasing the price on the entire line? I would speculate and say only the J120 is increasing in price.
BigPete Posted May 9, 2009 Posted May 9, 2009 Apparently the reason why the Jabiru line of aircraft pricing has remained the same (for the last three or so years), is improved production time. By improving the aircraft in many small ways which actually shorten the build time - thus turning out more in less time and keeping labour costs down. :thumb_up: regards :big_grin::big_grin:
Relfy Posted May 9, 2009 Author Posted May 9, 2009 I guess the reason I asked if the increase was across the line is that if it does only apply to the 120, then with the extra bits I looked at getting and the end quote for the 120, I am getting close to the price of a 160 or 170. That though, does get me into angry wife territory...any tips on addressing this? :black_eye:
facthunter Posted May 9, 2009 Posted May 9, 2009 Where it ia at. I would have thought that Jabiru with economies of scale would have had no trouble in keeping prices level or decreasing them. I would suggest that market forces allow a price increase based on what the competitors charge., due to exchange rates or whatever. They are a success story and a significant player in the marketplace. Nev
Mick Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 That though, does get me into angry wife territory...any tips on addressing this? :black_eye: Having a wife who is just as mad about flying is my way of addressing this issue;) Mind you it sucks being at home watching & hearing your aircraft flying around when the wife goes for a fly and leaves you at home:angry:
BLA82 Posted May 10, 2009 Posted May 10, 2009 The Jabirus are considered `underpriced` when you compare them to imports, even at 10% dearer, ESPECIALLY the J120. Fair comment though in this economic enviroment why on earth would you raise the price of a "recreational" product. Labour is cheaper, materials are cheaper so in all honesty adding 10% to the price means they are probably gaining 20% on the bottom line compared to before. They might be underpriced compared to the inports but that is a good thing-it means they are affordable but keep raising the price and it will make imports look like a better option especially if the exchange rates get better and if it does happen Jabiru might find themselves in a bit of a bind if compared to the build quality of some imports ie Tecnam if the prices are comparable. Just a thought:loopy:
bushpilot Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 They might be underpriced compared to the inports but that is a good thing-it means they are affordable but keep raising the price and it will make imports look like a better option especially if the exchange rates get better and if it does happen Jabiru might find themselves in a bit of a bind if compared to the build quality of some imports ie Tecnam if the prices are comparable.Just a thought:loopy: Labour rates dont necessarily go down in times like this - particularly skilled labour.. Same with materials, especially specialist materials.. Let Jab make a decent margin so they can keep their best people on-board and we Jab owners (present and future) gain from having access to strong factory support.
Yenn Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Just have a look at what you get with a Jab and compare it with the competition, although I do not particilarly like the Jab. I prefer low wing and a more sporty feel of flying. I think you will find they are verygood value for money.
BLA82 Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Labour rates dont necessarily go down in times like this - particularly skilled labour.. Same with materials, especially specialist materials.. Are you serious, I can tell you of several industries including aviation that labour rates have gone down, when you have more people wanting work and less work to give labour rates will always drop. They have always done this and always will. The skilled tradesman who thinks he is worth the same now as he was last year is correct but will he get payed that NO and any company that is watching their bottomline will look into this. And materials they may have not gone down yet but they will also, when you have fibreglass manufacturers etc having large quantities in stock and not as many orders they will drop. I know this as a fact because I put an order in yesterday for a friend who is building the identical boat as he did 8 months ago and the bill for materials was nearly 20%cheaper, not to mention the fact he has SKILLED trademan knocking his door down willing to work for what he used to pay labourers. It might be sad but it is all so true.
bushpilot Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 BLAB2: It's a pointless point you make; the bottom line is Jab has gone up significantly less than the o/s competition.. Go check the pricing of a new Tecnam; sure it a currency thing, but that's even more reason to buy 'Made-in-OZ'. That's the point..
BLA82 Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 BLAB2: It's a pointless point you make; the bottom line is Jab has gone up significantly less than the o/s competition.. . Bushpilot, No offense but I don't think it is pointless. If you read through my earlier posts you will see I said IF the keep rising the will end up costing the same as imports. The fact is in this market labour nd materials are cheaper that was my point. And yes Tecnam's are dearer no doubt but with minimal hrs 2nd hand tecnams dropping to around 90-100k and a top end Jab getting close to that NOT the 120 there will be a swing. I was not saying don't buy Jab nor don't buy Aussie Made so my point is valid just like yours
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